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Hello everyone,
and welcome back to the second part of our look at the meaning of
mal
In the first part, we talked about its origin and the somewhat normal mal as in einmal zweimal and so on. If you haven’t read that part, click right here and read it first please:
Today, we’ll get to what most of you are probably most interested in:
the particle mal.
We’ll see what it does to a statement and why Germans use it so much.
And then, we’ll go over the most common combinations like noch mal, schon mal, erst mal and so on.
So are you ready? Great.
mal – making things sound casual
In part one, we found out that the core idea of the noun das Mal is a fixed point in time.
And we already saw in the intro of part one, that that’s also also what mal is used for.
For instance a tourist guide in Berlin is very very likely to say this:
- Hier war mal ein Grenzübergang.
- Here, there was once a border checkpoint.
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Einmal would work here as well, and the meaning wouldn’t change, but that’s due to context and is not always the case.
Take this statement.
- Ich war mal in Paris, aber das ist lange her.
- I’ve been to Paris, but that was long ago.
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If we were to say einmal instead, the number would get the focus and people would understand that I was there exactly once, not twice.
Mal by itself however really only means once in the sense “at some point, doesn’t matter when exactly” and I think sometimes, it’s more natural to just not translate it at all… but that’s just me.
- Ich will mal nach Kanada.
- I want to go to/visit Kanada (at some point).
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- Kann ich mal mit deinem Handy telefonieren?
- Could I use your cell phone?
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Using einmal would sound odd in both these examples. A bit like this:
“Could I use your cell phone one time?”
The focus on the number is just too strong. So yeah… Germans use mal in a sense of “at point in time that I can’t specify or don’t feel the need to” . It is NOT the same as saying einmal and often, translating it would sound super odd. Here are some more examples:
- “Warum willst du denn nicht in das Restaurant, Schatz? Da gehen wir doch immer hin.”
“Ja, aber ich will einfach mal was neues ausprobieren.” - “Why do you not want to go to that restaurant, honey? We ALWAYS go there?
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- Ich hab’ mal eine Weile in Finnland gelebt.
- I’ve lived in Finland for a while.
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- Marie will auf jeden Fall irgendwann mal Kinder haben.
- Marie definitely want to have kids at some point.
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- Du hast eine neue Wohnung? Cool, ich komm’ auf jeden Fall mal vorbei.
- You have a new flat? Cool, I’ll definitely drop by.
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Now, obviously this mal doesn’t really convey much information. What it does do – and this is kind of the core of its more abstract use – is it adds a casual and relaxed vibe. All these examples would work without mal and still have the same meaning pretty much. But they would sound different.
Maybe it’s because mal basically signals that the exact point in time doesn’t really matter that much. But whatever the reason may be, it does change the tone of a statement and makes it casual. That’s a pretty nice effect, right?
And so it’s no wonder that Germans now also use it in contexts where it has no more notion of time whatsoever.
- Ich brauche mal einen Hammer.
- I need a hammer real quick.
Here, the person needs the hammer NOW, not at some point. The mal is just in there for the casual vibe. Like… without mal the sentence is like this guy wearing a tie and having his shirt buttoned up all the way, being strictly about dealing information. The version with mal is the same guy at a lounge, drinking a Martini with two buttons open.
This “casualization”-effect is also the reason why people use mal incredibly often to soften orders…. not in a restaurant but these everyday command we tell to our friends and coworkers.
- Wart’ mal kurz!
- Wait a second!
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- Halt mal kurz, bitte!
- Could you hold this for a second?
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- Komm mal her, ich muss dir was zeigen.
- Come here for a second, I have to show you something.
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- Erzähl mal, wie dein Urlaub war!
- Tell me about your vacation!
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- Guck mal, dahinten ist ein Filmstar!
- Look, there is a movie star over there!
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All these short sentences are direct orders and they could easily sound blunt and commanding. But the mal really softens that. Sure, it’s also a question of how you say it, but the mal makes a HUGE difference.
These everyday commands softened with mal are INCREDIBLY common in German and I can’t possibly list all examples… sag mal, zeig mal, versuch mal, guck mal, mach mal… you can hear all of these every day and the list goes on and on.
But that’s not all. Mal is also used for the same effect in questions, that are hidden commands.
- Kannst du mir mal das Salz geben?
- Could you pass me the salt?
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- Kannst du mal 5 Minuten still sein?
- Could you be quiet for 5 minutes?
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In fact, the second one would sound like an actual, legit question without the mal, so here the mal also communicates that it’s actually a request.
Cool.
Time for a quick recap before we move on.
First, we learned that people use mal in the sense of (at) a/some point in time and that it’s often not even necessary to translate it. And people use that so much, that it has evolved into a coloring particle that can make your sentence sound casual, your command soft and your question like a soft command without having anything to do with time.
What we’ll do now, to finish this off, is going over the most common combinations with mal one by one to see if they fit in with what we know and also to get a feel for them. Because in 2020 the year of natural fluency.
I just made that up.
But we can make it real.
The most common combinations with “mal”
Mal is part of quite a number fixed very common combinations. So fixed and so common that for some people don’t even know whether it is one word or 2 and the way they pronounce it really makes you think it is one.
In some phrases, the mal is more the mal of einmal, in others it is the casual-maker but don’t try too hard to explain these combinations. They just evolved and here they are. So… let’s look at some, shall we :)
The meaning of “noch mal”
This one is so famous, it even has its own website… what? Oh, no that wasn’t a joke… it really does, here’s the link.
The literal meaning of it would be one more time or once again. But often it is best translated with just again. In that sense you can also say noch einmal.
- Ich habe um 3 versucht anzurufen und dann noch (ein)mal um 5.
- I tried calling at 3 and then again at 5.
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And just like again, you can use it many times in a row… here is a nice example I found in a review for a remote on Amazon, where you can also see the spelling issue:
- Beide entsprechenden Knöpfe drücken – dreimaliges Blinken bestätigt Speicherung. Nun nur noch ausprobieren – Geht nicht. also noch mal. Und noch mal. Und noch mal. Und nochmal Bedienungsanleitung und Rezensionen gelesen….
- Push the respective 2 buttons – 3 time blinking confirms successful saving. All that’s left is trying – doesn’t work. So again. And again. And again. Read again manual and customer reviews…
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When said the right way, noch mal can also sound annoyed.
- “Bitte wiederhole das Wort noch mal.”
“Oh Goooott , NOCH mal. - “Please say the word once again.”
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But, just like mal, noch mal doesn’t always carry the idea of one time… heck, it doesn’t even always carry the idea of repetition. Imagine you meet a friend in the street and he or she invites you to see a movie…
- “Ich geh’ ins Kino. Willst du mitkommen?”
“Ja gern, aber ich muss vorher noch mal nach Hause.” - “I’m going to see a movie. Wanne come with?”
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So… what does this mean? It doesn’t necessarily mean that you have gone home already before that day and that this time will be going home AGAIN. Also, it doesn’t mean that you have to go home once and not twice.
It means that before you can go to the movie there is another task on your list…. so… you’re almost done with your list for that day but going home is still on it and you will have to do that first. That is what noch expresses… yep, I will do a post on that, too…. And what about the mal… well, this is the casual mal here. It means nothing. You can leave it out and have the same sense. Maybe it adds some notion that you won’t be home for long but honestly… just think of it as the casual-maker.
A brother of noch mal is the one word word… nochmals… but I’ll leave that for the dictionary :)
All right. Moving on.
The meaning of “mal sehen”
This one exists in more than one version but the idea is always the same. You can use it as a stand alone statement.
- Mal sehen/schauen.
- We’ll see/ I’ll have to see.
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- “Kommst du im Sommer mit an die Ostsee zelten?”
“Mal sehen… kann ich noch nich’ sagen.” - “Are you going to go camping at to the Baltic sea with us this summer?”
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But you can also use it in a real sentence.
- Mal sehen, ob Thomas heute pünktlich kommt.
- Let’s see, whether Thomas will make it in time today.
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One common expression following the same basic idea is this
- Schaunwama.
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What? Isn’t this that chicken wrap thing? Well, almost… it is actually dialect for
- Schauen wir mal.
- We’ll see /Let’s see.
Does mal translate to anything in these examples? No. Does it make it sound casual? Yes. And also, a one word infinite would be strange :)
The meaning of “nicht mal”
For nicht (ein)mal it actually helps to think of mal as one time.. so literally nicht mal is NOT one time… as in 0.75 times :). And that is not so far away from the actual meaning… not even.
- Du hast nicht mal deinen Teller in die Spülmaschine gestellt.
- You did not put your plate into the dish washer one time. (lit.)
- You didn’t even put your plate into the dish washer.
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- Der Film ist super kurz… ich glaub’, nicht mal 80 Minuten.
- The movie is super short… I think, not even 90 minutes.
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- Ich habe nicht mal was getrunken und ich hab’ trotzdem einen Kater.
- I didn’t even drink and I have a hangover anyway.
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Speaking of have… I think I have to mention something about nicht mal ….
- Ich war nicht mal in Paris.
is NOT just the negative of
- Ich war mal in Paris.
The combination of nicht mal really feels like not even. So the sentence means:
- I was not even in Paris, (let alone other cities… if that makes sense in English)
If you want to say the you’ve never been to Paris, that would be:
- Ich war noch nie in Paris.
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But that is another story.
The meaning of “gerade mal”
Now, a very similar combination to nicht mal is gerade mal which translates to barely or just (one times).
- Der Film ist gerade mal (grad mal) 80 Minuten lang.
- The movie is barely 80 minutes.
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- Was? Du bist fertig mit der Aufgabe? Ich bin grad mal bei der Hälfte.
- What? You are done with the exercise? I’ve just/barely/only done half of it.
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To make it a little more confusing, gerade mal has a second meaning which is a temporal one which ranges from right now to the immediate future
- Ich bin gerade mal 5 Minuten nicht im Büro.
- I’ll be out of the office for the next 5 minutes.
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- Ich bin grad mal in der Küche.
- I’ll be in the kitchen for a few moments.
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This is really hard to pin point and honestly, I think this meaning is not the most important one so won’t really need it.
What you will need is this
The meaning of “erst mal”
This is another one of those combinations that are so common that people tend to write it as one word. Officially 2 words is correct though. Now, I have already written about the word erst in detail (here’s the link) . And the good news is that male doesn’t add much to that except for it’s usual casual vibe.
- Ich muss erst mal nach Hause.
- First, I have to go home.
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We could leave out mal here without changing the meaning.
However, the bad news is that I lied… mal can change erst and remove a lot of the notion of first. I mean, it is still there… but only on an abstract level. So what does it mean?
Erst mal often means for now/ for this point in time.
- Du kannst erst mal hier wohnen bis du was eigenes hast.
- You can live here for now, till you find your own place to stay.
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Interestingly, erst mal also works when a time is given. Then, I have no idea how to translate it without having the English version being overly long and stilted.
- Du kannst erst mal ein paar Wochen hier wohnen….
- You can live here for a few weeks…
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So... erst mal is somewhere between first and as a first step, if that makes sense.
- Das Fahrrad ist zwar noch nicht komplett ganz, aber man kann erst mal damit fahren.
- The bike isn’t completely fixed yet, but for now it is “driveable”.
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- “Wie findest du mein Bild?”
“Hmmm, is’ schon cool aber irgendwie fehlt noch was.”
“Ja, ich weiß, aber ich weiß nich’ was. Ich lass’ es erst mal so.” - “How do you like my picture?”
“Hmmm.. it’s pretty cool already but I feel like something is missing.”
“Yeah, I know, but I don’t know what it is. I’ll leave it like that for now.
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Wow… in the last example, every German sentence was shorter than the English counterpart… now who would have though that was possible :)
Anyway… there is also a one word version of this… erstmals... and, oh my… the meaning of it is different… horayyyy.
Erstmals means for the first time and it only works in certain contexts which I can not tell more about because I have no idea. It is more of a newspaper word anyway.
- Erstmals steht eine Frau an der Spitze des Konzerns.
- For the first time, a woman is leading the corporation.
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The Meaning of “schon mal”
And finally, the last very very common combination is schon mal. It basically is just a combination of the already-schon and the (at) a point in time – mal but the translation can be quite different.
- Warst du schon mal in Paris?
- Have you been to Paris already at some point in time? (lit.)
- Have you (ever) been to Paris (yet)?
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Are you bored of Paris examples, yet :)?
- Hast du schon mal Insekten gegessen?
- Have you ever eaten insects?
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You can basically take out either schon or ma l and have pretty much the same question but the combination sounds best and is used the most.
And just to make sure… if the answer is negative, the phrasing you need is this:
- Nein, (noch) nie/nicht.
With the noch implying that you might do it in the future.
Now, there are other meanings of schon mal… it is not ALWAYS ever…. ever is actually just a byproduct of the combination. Imagine you are cooking with friends and you are making pasta. Your friend is in charge of the sauce and keeps cutting vegetables. You get bored would love to do something too, so you ask
- Soll ich schon mal die Nudeln kochen?
- Should I go ahead and boil/cook the pasta?
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So here, schon mal is less already than schon alone would be. Another example… the deed is done and the plates are filled. And then your phone rings. It’s your mom. So you say…
- Oh… ich muss kurz telefonieren, aber ihr könnt ruhig schon mal essen.
- Oh… I have to take this one, but you guys can go ahead and start eating.
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Sure, you could just think of it as already but to me, the vibe is a little different.
Now, finally, lastly, we need to talk about the other meaning of schon mal... yeah… I can hear you all sigh. The thing is, schon can mean already, but it is also a particle that disperses doubt to an extent… kind of like a skeptical yes. And this can also be the case in the combination with mal. Here are the 2 versions back to back…. I’ll stay at the dinner party…
- Ich muss mal telefonieren aber du kannst schon mal essen.
- I have to make/take a call real quick, but you can go ahead and/already eat.
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- Pasta mit Thunfisch kann man schon mal essen, aber nicht zu oft.
- Pasta with tuna? I guess, I can eat that … but not too often (kind of literally)
- Pasta with tuna… well, it is a fine dish but please not too often.
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Is there a difference in pronunciation? No. Can you only now by context? Yes. Is that important for a beginner? Hellllllllllllll no :). Just remember the “normal” schon mal.
Wrap up
So, this was the second part of our analysis of mal. I’m sure it was long and exhausting for you and I am just as sure that we did not cover all there is to say… there are more combinations out there and I also, I didn’t mention that mal can also means times in a mathematical sense.
- 2 mal 3 macht 4
Widdewiddewitt
und Drei macht Neune ! - Freckles on her nose,
Diddle diddle dee,
a girl came riding
Oh… quite some freedom in translation there :)… well, sure seems like the German Pippi Longstocking is an engineer doing STEM and stuff. Probably building cars, too.
Anyway… to sum up the most important thing:
mal, while originally probably just a shortened form of einmal, has evolved into a word of its own. It can mean (at) some point in time with no focus on how many times we are talking about but it has been used so much that often it is just a particle making the sentence sound casual.
The most prominent use of this mal are these little commands like guck mal, sag mal, frag mal and so on and so on… and you should definitely try to include that into your own German.
And now… all that’s left is the one mal no one of you expected…. that mal that means … to pee.
- Mama, ich muss mal.
- Mom, I need to pee. …Ok… it can also mean I need to take a dump, but peeing is more common.
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Yes, this is not a joke. Any German… any German will understand this. And it is not the worst way announcing that you need to see a bathroom.
- Ich muss mal.
Kids say it all the time in the car.
All right… so, this was mal the monster. If you have any questions or suggestions or you have others mals that we haven’t talked about yet, just leave me a comment. I am can’t wait to explain more :).
I hope you liked it, I’ll see you next time…

I’m sorry, but my question has nothing to do with “mal”… but in the examples I see many of these weird sentences that seem to omit the main verb:
“Ich will mal nach Kanada.”
“Warum willst du denn nicht in das Restaurant, Schatz?”
“Ja gern, aber ich muss vorher noch mal nach Hause.”
“Ich muss erst mal nach Hause.”
Something to do with modal verbs? Or the word “gehen” (which to me seems to be the word that is missing)? Do you have some article about this, because I always find it super confusing and waste a lot of time searching for the missing verb…
Yeah, I do have an article about that :)
https://yourdailygerman.com/modal-verbs-without-verb-german/
Great, thanks! Is there a complete list of or your articles anywhere? I wasn’t able to find this by browsing the site.
Technically, the complete list is here:
https://yourdailygerman.com/vocabulary/german-word-by-date/
But I have almost 1000 articles.
I have two different types of searches, one dictionary and one site search. For stuff like this where you search articles the site search works better. You can see both search options when you open the search field.
But you also always ask me in the comments :)
Wow, thanks! I assumed these “Vocab by…” links had the same stuff just in different order, so I only checked the first one… but this is just what I was looking for, so much interesting stuff!
Did the “Word by date” link vanish from the menus?
Yeah, I decided to consolidate navigation a bit.
I could add it to the new vocabulary “homepage”, under the categories, but it wasn’t really used enough to get a prominent menu spot :).
But that was the best page! Like a messy attic full of interesting stuff…
I mean, it’s still online, it’s just not in the menu :). You could bookmark it and go there directly. I’ll add it to the vocabulary base page.. Or maybe I should run a poll and if the majority wants it back I’ll bring it back.
“So here, schon mal is less already than schon alone would be.“
What?
I am confused.
Why should I use schon mal in this context? Okay, I got bored of cutting vegetables, and I want to do something else. But what on earth “go ahead” has to do with it?
And also in the second example:
Even in English, that is not a context in which you use already. So, it seems like the Germans don’t use already too. Then… what does exactly schon mal give the vibe of?
Is it because the plates are already filled, so that I can use schon mal like saying “folks, yeah, it is my mom calling, but it has nothing to do with you. We have already served (/filled) the plates, so go ahead and eat.”
What I am confused about is the reference of “already”. What does it refer to?
Already what?
There is something that I am missing.
Imagine a scenario where you and your friend are cooking. You agreed that the friend is going to make the sauce, but they then get a last minute email they have to reply to.
You are wondering if you should start with the cooking and maybe “go ahead” and not wait till the friend is done but instead already start boiling the pasta.
“schon” alone sounds like “already”. “mal” adds its casual vibe, making the “schon” less strong.
Same in the second example.
The vibe of “schon mal” is “go ahead, don’t wait”.
“schon” itself is used a bit more broadly than “already” and German totally WOULD use “schon” in the example of the phone call. But it’s way more common with “mal” because that’s more casual and occasional sounding.
You can’t think of “already” in any sense of “something is ready”. Think of it as “This happens while something else doesn’t happen yet.”
“This has to wait, that can happen already.”
I think most of your confusion comes from the difference between German “schon” and English “already” and German “schon” is much broader.
Does that help?
Let’s forget about already altogether. Because it really doesn’t help at all. I can confidently say that in this context schon ≠ already.
Now, the new sense for this context is: “(1) This happens while (2) something else doesn’t happen yet.”
Just tell me if I get this part right:
1) Context: “Imagine you are cooking with friends and you are making pasta. Your friend is in charge of the sauce and keeps cutting vegetables. You get bored would love to do something too, so you ask:
This happens: (1) I am boiling the pasta;
Something else doesn’t happen: (2) I am not being bored? Being bored is not happening?
2) Context: “Imagine a scenario where you and your friend are cooking. You agreed that the friend is going to make the sauce, but they then get a last minute email they have to reply to. You are wondering if you should start with the cooking and maybe “go ahead” and not wait till the friend is done but instead already start boiling the pasta.”
This happens: (1) I am boiling the pasta;
Something else doesn’t happen: (2) My friend isn’t making the souce, instead replying to his email?
3) Another example… the deed is done and the plates are filled. And then your phone rings. It’s your mom. So you say…
This happens: (1) my friends are eating;
Something else doesn’t happen: (2) I am not eating, instead talking with my mom?
And can you please kindly tell me what would be the difference if I didn’t even use schon mal in these 3 contexts?
1)
So “being bored” is not part of the step-by-step progression of making pasta. It doesn’t belong to the “group”. I guess I should have made that more clear.
In your context, using “schon mal” depends on whether it’d be an “early stage” for the pasta to be cooked. If the sauce takes an hour, then you could ask that with “schon mal” because you know the pasta won’t need to be ready for another hour.
Your being bored has nothing to do with the phrasing. It can be the reason why you want to start but the “schon mal” basically just acknowledges that it’s “unusually early”.
2)
Yes, boiling the pasta happens “already” even though the sauce hasn’t even been started yet.
3)
Yeah, the normal thing would be to start together, but “schon mal” says that the others can go ahead and start “early”.
If you skip “schon mal”, you’d be asking about general permission/advice.
In example two, it would not make sense if you already agreed that you do the pasta.
In example three, it would be fine, context will fill in here.
Do you have a specific problem with using “go ahead” as a guide?
Oh, I kinda get a sense of “earliness”.
My problem was creating a concept of go ahead.
Now, I can feel it is sort of mixed version of earliness, and not 2 things happening at the same time sense. However, earliness dominates.
Common pattern I have seen in all 3 cases is nothing started, hence earliness.
And also it marks INACTION -> ACTION concept.
The “reference” thing is really vague, actually.
You and your flatmate want to go on vacation. You two are just about to leave when your friend suddenly realizes they need they phone charger start taking their shoes back off to go get it.
You might say:
– Ich geh schon mal zum Auto.
Normally, you would have gone together, but you decide to “not wait” now.
It does not mark “inaction -> action”. That mark comes from the context and you would have it if you swap “schon mal” with “jetzt” or “in 2 Minuten”.
Does that help?
Yep, I really appreciate it.
I now have a sense of go ahead, lol. I don’t know how, but it now clicks. Probably, it is due to exposure to 4 contexts with explanation.
Thanks for your time. <3
Great article. I read it many moons ago, but it was too early for me. Now, having read and heard it so much, it starts to find its spot in my mind.
Mal = the German #lowkey :)
(I don’t use lowkey as you may remember so I don’t really know squat about it. Just laugh at my humorous attempt, and move on)
Hello, I have a question in the next example sentences above.
then, can grad mal can be replaced with kurz here?
Great question! Yes, it’s more or less the same. “kurz mal” also works.
– Ich bin grad in der Küche.
(focus on where I am NOW)
– Ich bin kurz in der Küche.
(focus on that it’ll be quick)
Adding “mal” just adds a casual tone. A bit like “this happens to be when I am in the kitchen” (but NOT literally that).
Hi Emanuel. Question over what you’re calling the ‘go ahead’ translation of schon mal.
I thought that ‘geh ruhig’ was ‘go ahead’ in German. e.g. “Wenn du müde bist, geh ruhig und leg dich schlafen”. You couldn’t use ‘schon mal’ here, for instance.
So I think maybe it’s better to think of it as ‘already’, even in these examples where the thing hasn’t happened yet. Maybe a bit like the American English phrase that you say when you’re annoyed at something someone’s doing: ‘enough, already!’
Thoughts?
Adding “ruhig” to a verb expresses that you shouldn’t worry and just do it, in the sense that it’s no problem.
– Geh ruhig und leg dich hin.
This is like saying “Go lay down, it’s okay, I don’t mind.” or something along those lines.
“schon mal” is more about a sense of actually “going ahead” as in “going first”.
– Ich ess schon mal.
– I’ll go ahead and eat. (And you can join later.)
Does that help?
Hallo Emanuel!
Ich hätte mal eine Frage:
Ich kannte seit schon einer Weile diese “casual” Bedetung von Mal und einmal musste ich eine Kollegin um etwas bitten und habe ihr gesagt “Kannst du bitte mal das mir schicken?” und sie meinte, dass sich das ein bisschen unhöflich wegen des “Mal” anhört. Warum ist dann so? Das war verwirrend :(
I really don’t know what the problem is, it sounds perfectly fine to me.
The sentence structure was off though
– Kannst du mir das bitte mal schicken?
This would be better.
Maybe it was HOW you said it, the tone, that made her feel this way.
Hello dear Emmanuel,
This sentence is from Die Verwandlung” von Kafka.
“das Kinn auf dem Geländer, sah er noch zum letzten Male zurück”
Why is “Male” used here?
Thanks for your help.
It’s just a Variation where “Mal” gets an “e” in some contexts. The meaning is the same. You can see this in books quite a bit. Sounds “literary”.
Oh I get it, the same happens with Türe in the book…thank you very much. I love your articles.
Happy to hear that :)
Hi Emanuel-
I have often wondered what the “mal” in Fangen wir mal an! meant – it’s used to soften the command? If so thanks for confirming!! Great article
It just makes it sound more casual.
There’s no “real” command here, so the statement without “mal” would be quite soft, as well.
Hi Emanuel,
Your articles are brilliant! I particularly love the etymology, history and related words/phrases. Getting a ‘feel’ for a word is so much more helpful than learning examples by rote or tables etc.
I do have a question about this example:
Ich brauche mal einen Hammer.
I need a hammer real quick.
Looking at previous examples (eg Ich will mal nach Kanada.), is it the tone/context that sets the meaning ‘real quick’ in the hammer example, or could it ever mean ‘I need a hammer sometime’?
For example, if my wife and I are watching TV and she asks me ‘when are you going to put a nail in the wall for that picture?’ If I were to absentmindedly reply ‘‘ch brauche mal einen Hammer , would that still mean ‚I need a hammer real quick‘?
So I’m joking a bit with the example, but interested to know in the hammer example, does it have the meaning ‚real quick‘ because of the assumed context, or is it another reason?
Thanks!
Ade
Great question :)!
Yes, it’s totally the context that makes it clear here. Also “brauche mal einen Hammer” leans toward you need it then and there, as opposed to “at some point” simply because it’s the more common context.
So I think native speakers would usually make an effort to clarify when they speak about the general need.
If someone said just “Ich brauche mal einen Hammer” while we’re watching a movie, I’d assume they really don’t like the film :)
. Thanks v much!
Can “mal” be used as an intensifier? Maybe that’s not quite the right word, but I was wondering because I came across this sentence:
With a lot of emphasis on “das ist”. It seems to emphasize that it’s a big ant.
I was searching around for similar examples and it seems like “das ist mal klar” might be along the same lines. Would you say the “casual factor” is missing here, or maybe something else is going on?
True!
It does sound like it an impressive ant.
“Das ist mal klar.” does not have the same vibe to me though.
What unites them is that we could translate them as “for once”.
– Now THAT is one special ant for once.
– This is clear for once/for a change.
The casual factor is not missing, imo, but that’s a pretty subjective statement.
In the sentence about the “ant”, the mal expresses that you don’t see this kind of ant every day, but the “being impressed” is mainly carried by intonation. If you take that out, the sentence doesn’t sound that intense any more.
Not sure if that helps :)
Ohhh ok. That does make sense, thanks :)
Hi – Fantastic article!! Thx! I didn’t see but is there a difference between zum ersten Mal and das erste Mal? I feel like there is but I can’t wrap my head around it
“zum ersten Mal” is pretty much “for the first time”.
“das erste Mal” is “the first time”.
– Ich war gestern zum (zu dem) ersten Mal im Zoo.
– Warst du schon mal im Zoo?
– Nein, das war das erste Mal.
First of all: your blog on ‘Mal’ is excellent! Even as a native German speaker I was not aware of many of the subtle details !!
I only want to add one crtitcal comment, only a little correction:
In the phrase ‘Ich muss mal’, it is the the word ‘muss’ that has the meaning of ‘need to (pee etc.)’, not ‘mal’! Or have I missed your irony? As you surely know that “Ich muss auf’s Klo” means “I need to go to the loo/john”!
You’re totally right, it’s not really the “mal” that makes the meaning. It’s the combination of “muss mal”.
Without “mal”, it wouldn’t really work either if there isn’t anything else.
“Ich muss.”
I’m not sure I’d understand that as having to go to the loo… well, except of course with the fitting body language :)
Thanks for the input and the great feedback!!
Das war ja eine fantastische Erklärung. Vielen Dank Emanuel. Du machst auch einen unendlich wertvollen Job in den Kommentaren.
Irgendwie habe ich, so wie Robert Brooks und ohme hier oben, Probleme mit der Position von „mal“ im Satz. Es ist aber toll deine Erklärung übers Thema zu lesen, da bisher habe ich nur mein Sprachgefühl benutzt, das offensichtlich sehr ungenau ist :-).
Manchmal wird es schwer, zwischen Theme und Rheme zu unterscheiden, zB:
“Ich gucke mir das mal an” – Hier vermute ich, alles ist „Action“ und deswegen steht „mal“ ganz am Ende.
”Ich gucke mir das mal in Ruhe an” – Ok, „in Ruhe“ ist Setup und deswegen steht „mal“ da zwischen
”Ich gucke mir das am Wochenende mal in Ruhe an” – wäre „am Wochenende“ nicht auch Setup in diesem Satz? oder ist dieser Satz nicht ganz korrekt? (Ich glaube ich habe das mal gehört).
Tausendmal Danke für deine Hilfe!
Álvaro
Ich glaube, du verwechselst da was… das Setup ist VORNE und die Punchline hinten.
“in Ruhe” ist ein bisschen unklar. Es kann vor und hinter “mal” kommen, beides ist okay.
“am Wochenende” (time) ist nicht so definierend für “angucken”, deshalb ist es Teil vom Setup.
– Ich gucke mir das mal an.
Die Action ist “angucken”. Ich ist der Protagonist (also Setup) und dann kommen “mir” und “das”, Referenzen zu was eh schon “in the scene” ist, also auch Setup. Das Verb muss auf “zwei” also bleibt am Ende nur “an” als Rhema.
Hast du meine Artikel über Word Order und die über die Position von “nicht” gelesen? Da gibt’s mehr zu dem Thema.
Danke, das hilft! Ich werde die Artikel über die Position „nicht“ nochmal lesen. Vielen Dank, dass du deine Zeit genommen hast :-)
Álvaro
Very helpful! Thank you!
Freut mich, zu hören :)
Is the position of mal fixed in the sentence?. You nearly always have it directly after the verb but I’m sure I’ve seen it elsewhere.
It is kind of fixed but only from an analytical standpoint.
It sits between theme and rheme. The “theme” is the setupf of the sentence, the “rheme” is it’s main message.
The particles like “doch”, “schon” and “mal” sit right in between, but where that line is depends on the individual sentence.
– Ich muss morgen mal duschen.
You could move it here before “morgen”, too, but after it is more “natural”.
Note “mal” can also be used as “not” a particle.
– Mal regnet es, mal scheint die Sonne.
So ultimately, let’s say the position is not fixed :).
Hallo!
erstmal, vielen lieben Dank für diese Blog, es ist super hilfreich! (wirklich, ich liebe es, super witzig)
Ich habe eine Frage über ‘Einmal’. wie benutz man es eigentlich?
Ich arbeite in einem Hotel, und Gast sagt zB. ‘einmal Checkout’ oder ‘einmal zwei mal Capuccinos’ also ehhhh? Deutsche Freunde hat mir gesagt ist wie ‘just’ aber es klingt nicht wieso… haha
Danke im Voraus!
Barbara
Wenn dir die Zahl wichtig ist, dann sagst du “einmal”. Dann heißt es soviel viel “one time” or “a”.
Hilft das?
Hi Emanuel, related to this question:
Ich hätte mal eine ähnliche Frage:
Ich höre vom Schafner manchmal “Guten Tag, einmal die Fahrschein bitte” was will er hier mit “einmal” ausdrücken? Ich habe das Gefühl, dass nur ein Füllwort ist, bin mir aber nicht sicher.
Ja, es ist ein Füllwort. Es hat hier wirklich keine Bedeutung.
I think it comes from a general pattern of ordering things. Like “One beer please” or “I’ll take one Schnitzel and one salad”.
Note that they say “die Fahrscheine” in plural. Otherwise it would be “den”.
Really thanks to this summary.
It was really hard to find nice summary about the “mal” but HERE it is!
Actually I would like to know where should I put the “mal” in the sentence.
For example,
1. Probieren (v) Sie (s) “mal” das Tuch (o).
2. Probier (v) (no subject) sie (o: plural form of something) “mal”.
1. After subject, before object: mal is located.
2. In this sentence why is mal in after object?
Doesn’t matter? Or do I miss something?
Please kindly help me to understand this.
Thanks a lot.
Great question :)!!
The key to that is that the object is a normal noun one time and a pronoun the other time.
German sentences can be split into two areas, in jargon called theme and rheme
The “theme” sets up a situation, the “rheme” is the actual story.
Pronouns are normally part of the setup, because they refer to stuff we already know. Nouns on the other hand, as direct objects in particular, come later.
Particles like “mal” or “doch” always sit right between “theme” and “rheme”, that’s why “mal” is in front of the noun but after the pronoun.
For more on that, I recommend my series on word order and my series on the position of “nicht”.
Let me know if that helps.
Thanks for explanations amazingly help
Really thankful for your effort to write this monstrous Mal. :)
Danke dir :)
Can you use ‘Warten Sie mal!’ instead of ‘Wollen Sie bitte warten’, lets say to a customer or should you just use the mal with friends, colleagues : ‘Wart, mal!’
Niamh
I’d say it’s better to only use this “mal” with friends and colleagues but not complete strangers.
“Wollen Sie bitte warten” actually sounds quite impatient to my ears, too.
Might be a regional thing but the “real” polite version is “könnten Sie bitte kurz warten” or even better “einen Moment bitte”