Hello everyone,
and welcome to our German word of the Day. And after last our intense look at auf last fart-night this time we’ll take it easy and… Wait, I meant fortnight. Fart-night is what I had yesterday. Beans for dinner
you know.
So yeah, obviously we’ll definitely take it very easy and and have a look at a cool little word that’s 100% colloquial. So you won’t find it in newspapers and definitely not in your textbook. Get ready for a look at
verpeilen
And to understand verpeilen, we’ll first look at peilen. And to understand peilen we’ll first need to look at ei. And to understand ei, we’ll first need to look at hen. And to understand hen… okay okay I’ll stop the stupid right now.
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Das war seeeehhhhhrrrrrr interessant!! Danke !
Freut mich :)!!
Verpeilen
Wow, that’s an old one :)
Hi, everyone! I am so glad to be part of this community, and I would like to thank everyone who donated, for your generosity! You are awesome! I promise to make the best of the membership I was granted as result of your actions!
While I’m bombarding the comments section with comments… I’d just like to say that I think it’s great that Ema’s posts stay up for days before a new one is posted – gives me time to read and re-read them, look up words, write practice sentences and really let all the great info in each post sink in. And the comments section is very enlightening! It certainly does take a village, doesn’t it!
Oh while we’re at it… I’m really really grateful and amazed at how peaceful, positive and supportive the comment section is. In 6 years I had to delete precisely nothing and I only recall three or four comments that would qualify as “hater”. I know comment sections on Youtube and it’s a completely different ball game no matter the content. So… danke an alle :)!!
Boring grammar inquiry – “über den Daumen gepeilt” – is the “den Daumen” part singular accusative masculine or plural dative? “Über” being a 2-way preposition. If you like “Guestimate” you must love “Staycation”. What would “Staycation” be in German?
Good question! It’s singular Accusative. Your “peilen” crosses from one side of the thumb to the other, so it traverses it. It’s directional act, not a stationary.
Staycation is a bit longer in German, but quite lovely:
– Urlaub auf Balkonien
Here’s an article of a women’s magazine on the topic:
https://www.brigitte.de/leben/wohnen/balkon-garten/urlaub-zu-hause–balkonien–traumurlaub-auf-4-quadratmetern-10181670.html
Es gibt sogar einen Film. Der ist höchstwahrscheinlich eine Katastrophe:)
https://www.moviepilot.de/movies/die-slupetzkis-urlaub-in-balkonien
Vielen Dank für die Links! Ich habe ein Trailer für “Die Slupetzkis” gefundet im Internet! Die Artikel hat nichts unversucht gelassen! All the new vocabulary I’m learning in that article! Beats NDR news!
On a further Mark Twain-esque note…Do you think “peilen” is related to the word “pilot”? Both the verb (to guide a boat through shoal waters) and the person who does it? Seems likely….
Nice idea!! Etymonline says “pilot” is related to “pedal” and ultimately goes back to a Greek word for steering which was based on the word for foot.
Here’s the link for reference:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/pilot
Now some trivia for you regarding English. During the 18th century American river boat sailors also measured their position on the river by how much water filled a bucket. When making their measurements they announced when they made their measurement by yelling out, “Mark,” to which the pilot would answer, “Twain. These words impressed a young pilot trainee by the name of Samuel Clemens, who later chose his pen name accordingly. Did you know that story.
Woooow, no I did not!! Do you know what “Twain” meant?
Oh and Emmanuel…”twain” means “two”.
I always think of “zwei” as “twain” (obviously by its sound, not its spelling) and “zwanzig” as “twain-zig”. Also twain may have affinities with twin.
Larry: Jawohl! Heard that story when we visited the “Mark Twain House”. One of my favorite authors – the man who said, “Golf is a good walk spoiled.” And I agree with Crittermonster – twain-zwei: “Never The Twain Shall Meet” in my head every time I hear “zwei”. We moved between Chicago, DC and New Orleans my entire life, with the weather so yeah, “pail” and “twain” not at all unusual words for Southerners – although not widely used in Chicago.
And now for Today’s Swedish Info: The Swedish TV Inspectors (the guys that check to see if people who don’t pay their TV-license really don’t have a TV-set) “pejla”. Pejla (pron: paila) is to decide the direction, check the level, sound out; as in to get a feel for, check the level of. Directly from the German.
In the example, “I hate math…” does the recording actually say “das alles” because it doesn’t sound like it to me. It seems like the speaker says “Ich hasse Mathe – ich peil einfach nicht.” Perhaps my ‘ear’ for Deutsch is still too weak. Please clarify when you get a moment. Thanks
Ups, you’re right!
I’m saying” … ich peil das einfach nicht.”
Thanks for the heads up and sorry for the confusion.
A “pail” is not a seldom used word in English. There is a famous nursery rhyme that uses it and I learned long ago on school.
Jack and Jill
Went up the hill
To fetch a pail of water
Jack fell down
And broke his crown,
And Jill came tumbling after
I think it may have been recently in the last century that bucket became more common but where I’m from in the Southern USA it was common enough when I was a boy.
Also in the USA, Labor Day is one of our like six, I think, national holidays, the unofficial last day of summer, Memorial Day is the beginning of unofficial summer, if you don’t know, but “Labor Bay” is so close to Labor Day that an American from the USA wouldn’t have chosen that wording for a day of work. Yes I know what labor means. Working Day Bay might have been chosen instead. Just a thought from a a distant continent.
I agree. Pail is actually often used, at least in my world. I am no linguist, but it seems to be especially used with children toys. The ‘sand pail’ for going to the beech. The pail for the bathtub time. It seems frequently used in gardening too. Like the Southern person, in my Yankee upbringing I definitely heard and learned the word.
Oh, that’s interesting. I was going for the pun here, but if it doesn’t work then there’s no use :). Changed it to “working day”. Danke dir!!
I‘d say „über den Daumen“ was „Guestimate“.
I love English for this kind of stuff :)
Maybe verpeilen translates into English as “spaced” as in, “I spaced out that I had a quiz this morning”.
Thank you as always for an enjoyable and very helpful stroll through the tricky but fascinating terrain that is German!
Oh, I didn’t know about this expression but in your example it fits PERFECTLY!!
Just to make sure though…. “verpeilt” is not “spaced out” in context of describing a person (“He is spaced out”… this is MUCH stronger than “verpeilt”)
Wow!!! I love this connection!! One of my favourite expressions I learnt early on from a friend was “den Pegel halten” when we were standing next to the Pegel on the Rhein in Köln :D. Now in Berlin I´ve experienced, I believe, what “verpeilt” means many times. Now I can connect both worlds!
Hahaha… yeah, “verpeilt” happens a lot in Berlin.
Are you the unicorn-Sal, by the way?
Ich finde Ruths Erklaerung gut. Daumen hoch
Haha yeah, meiner auch!
We also have the unit of dry volume – a ‘peck’, which is part of the great tongue twister ‘Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers’ A peck being 2 gallons. The expression I mentioned above seems to be more common with a ‘peck of dirt’. (Personally I’d rather consume a peg, than a peck!) Anyway, my point being they must all have roots with Pegel.
Just checked Etymonline, and yes, they do :).
What’s interesting is why you’d have a measure for 30ml and 2 gallons. Kind of like “a dozen” which I always found random, too. Like… what’s so special about these quantities :)
The thing with a dozen is that in history, there was no consense in the field of numeral systems. One civilization might have used the octal numeral system, others the sexagesimal system and others the decimal system and whatever the Romans did (XD). In the Germanic tribes, I guess, they used for certain stuff the duodecimal system. The system with the base 12. That is why we have name for the numbers from one to twelve but count “thirteen, fourteen…” afterwords.
So a dozen like ten today was something special because it was a smooth number (“glatt”). In the same way was “60” which is five times twelve and six time ten a very special number, so it came to use for time. 60 seconds are one minute and 60 minutes are one hour, twelve hours for the day, twelve hours for the night, twelve month a year, there you have it again.
The last one is probably the cosmic constant that resulted in this. You have 12 full moons a year, that was something even the tribes in the stone age should have been able to count.
“peg” and “peck” both stem from the gallone system. It seems, the British like to divide or multiply by 2 for their units. Hence you have a new name for two gallones and for a quarter, an eighth, a sixteenth which is a “cup” and a tenth of a cup is a “fluid ounce” which is aprox. 28.41 ml which was rounded to 30 ml for a peg.
Interestingly in English (Google tells me from India/Nepal) we have the measurement of volume of a ‘peg’, which is 30ml. I only know this from an expression my parents used to use and that is ‘a peg of dirt’ is good for a child. It meant they would be less likely to pick up illnesses/germs etc if they, over the course of childhood, consumed a peg of dirt along the way!
Haha… well 30 ml of dirt is not that much. One day playing in the mud should do :D
In English “pickled” applied to a person means very drunk. Perhaps from the same source as “picheln”.
Verpeilen fits with the notion of memory as a bucket. My excuse for not remembering new stuff is that the bucket’s full.
Pickled! Didn‘t think of that – „picheln“ makes me think of „Pitcher“, as in drinking pitchers of beer.
I was always a bit confused about “pitcher” and why it was a word for a big jug.
Now I looked it up and apparently it’s related to German “Becher” (jar, mug) and Italian “bicchiere” (glass to drink).
And “bechern” would be another slang term for “drinking lots of acohol” :)
I just checked and etymonline said that “pickle” is related to the German word “pökeln” which is putting meat into lots of salt. In English, it’s also used for veggies in liquid and the notion of “drunk” is probably based on “completely soaked” :)
As for the origin of “pickle” and “pökeln”… it’s unknown but some suggest a connection to Latin “piccare” which was “to sting” and also “to taste sour”
Verpeilen. Super cool. Ist es immer vergessen für Dinge oder gibt es was umgangssprachlicher. Cooles Wort nah?
Es funktioniert nur für abstracte Sachen… Konzepte, Termine, Pläne. Du kannst nicht deinen “Schlüssel verpeilen”.
Wie läuft’s bei deinem Deutsch so? Gut oder?
Super! Thank you for this entry! I’ve heard “verpeilt” translated as “messed up” . Could “das ist verpeilt” mean “this is messed up”?
Good question but no, “verpeilen” really only covers this idea of mixing something up/forgetting. And as an adjective it only works for people “Thomas ist verpeilt”) in a sense of weak memory/chaotic.