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Hello everyone,
And welcome to a new episode of the epic and beloved series of Learning Quiz.
Or Quizzon, as I like to call them, because they’re essentially a lesson and a quiz rolled into one.
And today, we’ll explore:
The differences between ‘denn’ and ‘weil’
If you’re new to this series: in a learning quiz I guide you through a topic by asking a series of questions that build on each other. So we’ll kind of explore it together and you have a much more active role.
I love this format and I think it’s a really great way to learn actually,. Much better than me explaining everything at you for 15 minutes.
Through the questions, you get the chance to think about something first and try to figure it out yourself. That way, you brain is really hungry to learn the answer if you get it wrong. And if you get it right… I mean… is there a better motivational boost than figuring something out for yourself?!
a) No, I guess.
b) No!
c) HELL NO!
The… uhm.. the correct answer here is c).
Anyway, are you ready to jump in?
Then let’s go!
Viel Spass!
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So, how did you do?
I think the part about “scope” and sentence levels was a bit nerdy or theoretical, but don’t worry if you didn’t fully grasp that. It’s not something you need to worry about in daily life.
And by the way… I also have a more traditional text based lesson about ‘denn’ vs ‘weil’, so if you want to dig in a bit more and see more examples you can find it here:
‘denn’ vs ‘weil’ – The Differences Explained
And if you’re interested in that other use of ‘denn’, the one that native speakers pepper into their questions all the time, I have an article about that as well.
But you’re also welcome to leave all your questions here in the comments and I’ll clear it all up.
Let me know how you liked the Quizzon and if you think things will stick.
I’m out for now, have an amazing day, and I’ll see you next time.
Bis dann!
6/7 score! Woohoo!
I liked the note that you’ll notice native speakers using incorrect grammar. There was that viral tiktok last year (?) where the woman said, “Es ist so nervig, hier runterzulaufen…” then shouted, “weil die Treppe ist nicht genormt!” and every time I heard that sound I cringed because I knew it was wrong, and worried that hearing it over and over again, it would instill in my brain, that that is the correct sentence structure. lol
Hallo Emanuel, herzlichen Glückwunsch zur Geburt deiner Tochter! Möge Gott sie immer segnen und beschützen.
Vielen Dank für das Quizzon. Ich liebe Quizze und finde sie viel interessanter zum Lernen.
Bis zum nächsten Mal. Liebe Grüße
Elizabeth
Danke dir :).
Bisher ist sie und wir wirklich gesegnet. So ein fröhliches Baby.
Woo-hoo! A first time ever!! One hundred percent WRONG!!!! I guess I’m going to go over this one a few more times. And yes, this is a great way to actually learn it.
Aaaand, when the loving and attentive parents can’t figure out what the little one needs when she is crying (because she has few communication options yet) … another thing to try is this: https://youtu.be/j2C8MkY7Co8?si=ujMCl5A-nJKqCuWq
This technique works! I have used it dozens of times.
The first time score really doesn’t matter at all. What truly matters is the “one month later” score. Like… there has to be this “Oh, I think I GET it moment.”, but if you have that from the first go around you kind of already knew the stuff or your brain has a lucky day :)
In a way, a quiz might be more “honest” than an article in that an article can make you FEEL like “Yeah, I got this.” but maybe you actually didn’t.
I absolutely love your Learning Quiz! Thank you so much and congratulations on your creation: a new language-learning genius has been born!
Im really greatfull for all the hard work on your site and also really happy for u and other people who have a chance by paing more and helping others. And Emmanuel, your work is really detalied and meaningfull to other german lerners. Again, thank you for all of the help you have done!
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First – Sincere congratulations to you and your family on the miracle of birth (I’m sure Mia would agree)! Second – I like the Quizzon format because the lesson points ‘stick’ faster. I don’t understand everything correctly the first time (the first test) for whatever reason, so I repeat until I ‘get it’. Then I go back another day and review. However, the traditional text lessons are invaluable, especially if I continue struggling, so I use both.
You may have hit on this already, but “denn” translates more like the old English “for.” As in these examples: “Look at me, because (weil) I’m about to do a magic trick!” Versus: “Behold my presence, for (denn) I will engage in prestidigitation of the highest magnitude!” If you can spot the difference of usage in English then you can fairly easily decipher when to use “denn” vs “weil.”
I think I mentioned it in the article but I didn’t want to use it in the quiz because many readers are not English native speakers, and I’m not sure as to how familiar people are with “for”.
You’re right, it can point you in a direction, but denn is nowhere NEAR as pompous as “for”. In meetings or presentations you’ll see it all the time.
Hello,
First of all, congratulations on the arrival of your little Mia, I’m sure you and your girlfriend and overjoyed and I wish the 3 of you alles Gute :)))
Now a couple of typos:
“learn actually,.” (learn actually.)
“explaining everything at you” (explaining everything to you)
I got all questions right, apart from the first one, the “scope” tricked me lol
Bis bald!
Very cool learning format! I’m going to steal it for my classroom. And congratulations on being a Papa!
76.92%…
Congratulations on the birth of your daughter! Now the worrying never stops!
The first answer – that “denn” has a more formal feeling – was interesting to me because I always instinctively felt that, mostly just because it is used much less often than “weil” even though (at least as a non-native speaker) the grammar is easier with “denn”. I figured there has to be a tone-related reason that it’s not used nearly as often, and I also noticed that it was slightly more common in writing than in speech. But whenever I asked a native speaker they would always shrug and say they just see them as synonyms and don’t feel different, so don’t worry about using them interchangeably. Why would that be?
I never knew the other thing either, that “denn” is always top-level. To be fair, it’s quite rare that a sentence is really ambiguous; even in the examples you gave it was pretty obvious from the context which cause and effect was intended. But it could certainly be helpful with reading or writing advanced texts and things like that.
“But whenever I asked a native speaker they would always shrug”
They don’t know what they’re talking about ;). It’s not that denn is used more in writing because it sounds more formal, at least that’s not the full story. It sounds more formal because it’s used more in writing. People just use weil WAY more in daily life, which then makes denn feel more formal.
If everyone used denn all day, it would stop having this “extra” feeling.
“even in the examples you gave it was pretty obvious from the context which cause and effect was intended.”
I have to disagree here, there was no cause and effect intended. To myy mind, both readings are equally valid. But yes, these do not occur often.
What does occur is stuff like this.
– Ich muss Thomas erinnern, dass er kein Alkohol trinken darf, weil er Antibiotika nimmt, denn er vergisst das gerne mal.
Not the best example, but a longer spanning sentence, with an integrated one that contains a weil and is then followed by a reason one level up. Double weil would sound shitty and be less clear here, but ‘denn’ has the level baked in, so to speak.
I often read DW’s Top Thema articles. Today I have read this:
“In Kenia ist die Ausfuhr von Wildtieren – und damit auch Ameisen – generell verboten. Trotzdem wird immer wieder versucht, sie zu schmuggeln. Denn der Handel mit den kleinen Tieren ist ein lukratives Geschäft: Eine Königin der Großen Afrikanischen Ernteameise kann mehr als 200 Euro wert sein und lässt sich relativ leicht im Handgepäck transportieren.”
Is this an indication that the rule about using denn are becoming more loosely followed? But to my eyes, DW often uses odd punctuation.
No, the just made a period after the first part.
– Trotzdem wird immer wieder versucht, sie zu schmuggeln. Denn der Handel mit den kleinen Tieren ist ein lukratives Geschäft:
You could use a comma here, but because they are doing this colon stuff later, it’s better to split up the sentence.
A denn sentence is like its own thing. You can replace the comma in every one of my examples with a period. The crucial thing is that the denn part comes AFTER what it refers to.
Massive congratulations on the birth of your baby daughter. You are going to be a brilliant father.
I believe you have a mis-print in question 7 of the quiz. The next-to-last sentence includes the word “bist” twice in the Weil section, so I considered it wrong, though you claim it is correct:
“Weil bist du zu spät zum Meeting gekommen bist, bin ich sauer.”
I think you intended the first clause to start: “Weil du zu ….”
Yup, I thought I fixed it last night but forgot to hit save apparently. Sorry for messing up the score!
Yeah, I thought I corrected this last night but forgot to save it. Sorry for messing up your score!
My worst score ever! : / Usually I can get through the quizzes based on how a sentence ‘feels’, but every example ‘felt’ equally correct to me, even after reading the explanations. I think I need to consult your longer article
That’s probably English influencing your perception then. Think of ‘denn’ as a slightly less pompous ‘for’.
Oops, that “Doppelbist” is proving strangely resistant to correction, as it’s still appearing among the options for the last question of the quiz, despite claims below of it having been expunged. Other than that, all good ;-)
“Doppelbist” – I love that! I’m feeling very robbed by that double “bist” right now LOL!
I think without that I would have had them all right, which is so amazing for me, I’m so proud!
Schroedringer’s bist. It wasn’t definitely there before y’all looked.
Completely off topic, but maybe it gives you some Aussie pride… I pretty much didn’t inform myself about baby stuff at all beforehand except for one channel. It’s an Australian midwife and she just comes across as so competent and chill with her two kids that it made me feel safe. Like… it’s going to be okay, and it actually is okay, and if I really have problem with something specific, I can go to her channel and she’ll be there.
You also have some great economists, too. On Youtube, I mean.
After recently having belted my English-speaking brain around with word ordering in subordinated clauses, I found the denn v weil exercise really helpful to test my progress. I didn’t pick up on the ‘double bin’ error in 8, but I’ll happily put my ‘correct’ answer on the swings and roundabouts of ‘what the!’ quiz answers. Wishing you many sleep filled nights of parental joy!
“Weil ich letzte Woche stark erkaeltet WAR, konnte ich zu deiner Party eben nicht kommen, DENN ich wollte euch nicht mal anstecken”
In the above sentence, “denn” definitely wouldn’t work in the first clause!
Love this. I think you have an extra “bist” in one of the sentences in question 7.