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Hello everyone,

and welcome to a new episode of Grammar Terms Explained. And today, we’ll talk about a term that’s actually EXTREMELY exclusive. For one, because it’s exclusive to the German language, and more importantly, it’s exclusive to you.
Because I made it up :).
I’m talking of course about:

The r-version

Those of you who’ve read some of my articles from the series Prefix Verbs Explained probably remember the term because I use it in virtually every episode.
And what I mean by it are verbs like these:

raufmachen, reingehen, rauskommen,

Now, why would I make up a term for them instead of just using the official one?
Well, because there actually ISN’T an official one. R-versions just aren’t really a thing and virtually all textbooks and courses and online content kind of ignore them or treat them as an aside.
But the r-versions are VERY common and VERY useful, especially in daily life.

So, it’s definitely time we talk about them and answer all the questions you have and didn’t even know you had :).
Like… What are they? Where are they coming from? What do they mean?
And what’s up with dr-versions and hin-versions and her-versions?
Because yes… there are multiple versions of prefix versions.
German, am I right :)?

This whole thing is going to be a two part episode – one for the basics and one for the nerdy details :).
And the first part is going to be a Q&A type format.
I started out writing and creating a narrative thread, but I kind of got lost this time and it was getting hard to follow, so I decided to take the easy way out and just run through some questions :).
But at least I’m still writing myself, like way back when, before ChatGPT, in… uh… 2022.
Oh, the good old days.
Anyway, let’s go!

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Basics about r-versions

What are r-versions?

R-version is a term I started using to refer to these versions of prefix verbs that have an extra “r” at the beginning.

Like… prefix verbs are for example:

  • aufmachen
  • ausgehen
  • einsetzen

And the corresponding r-versions are:

  • raufmachen
  • rausgehen
  • reinsetzen

There are also other, similar versions, which we’ll get to in a second.

Do I need r-versions?

Do you need food?
Yes, you ABSOLUTELY need r-versions.
Or let me put it this way:

You cannot really speak idiomatic German without r-versions.

Yes, I really mean that!
The earlier you start getting a grip and using them, the better. Because many of them express very basic concepts that you need every day.

What do r-versions mean?

Prefix verbs are a combination of a prefix and a verb. The prefix is often a preposition and the whole thing is kind of the same deal as the English phrasal verbs, just in a different order.

  • to come out
  • auskommen

I mean… same deal right?
Well, NOT REALLY. Because if you want to express the actual basic idea of coming out somewhere, then auskommen is NOT the right word.
You need the r-version.

  • Komm raus!
  • Come out(side)!

And this is actually not an exception but the rule.

The r-version usually has the most basic, literal and “location-based” meaning you can think of when you take the combination of verb and prefix.

Sounds a bit complicated, but it’s easier than it sounds.
Suppose it’s raining and you don’t want to go outside. Do we need ausgehen or rausgehen?
We need rausgehen. Because while ausgehen is great and has a bunch of meanings, it does NOT have the most basic, most intuitive spatial meaning. That’s what the r-version is for.

  • Es regnet. Ich will nicht rausgehen.
  • It’s raining. I don’t want to go outside.

Now guess want rübergehen means?
Exactly… to go across.
And how about rauskommen?
Right on… to come outside.

And let me also show you an example from daily life that’s not about going somewhere.

  • Das ist Kunst, kein Tisch. Bitte nichts rauflegen.

This of course means that you should not put anything on top of that thing that looks like a table but is actually art.
Because… you know… Berlin.
And no, you cannot use auflegen for this. It has all kinds of useful meanings, but the most basic idea of “laying on top” is not one of them because that literal sense is usually covered by the r-version.

And German speakers are REALLY tuned in to these r-versions. Even though it’s just one letter difference, it FEELS completely different to a German native speaker.
That’s why these r-versions are so useful, even for beginners.

So… whenever you learn a new prefix verb that can have an r-version, take a second to think about what that r-version is probably going to mean and then look it up. You’ll be pleasantly surprised at how often you at least get the gist right.

In my series prefix verbs explained, I always mention the r-version, and it’ll also play a role in the card game and app I am working on. So… lots to come.

What other “versions” are there?

Besides the r-version, you can also find her-versions, d(a)r-versions and hin-versions.

  • raufgehen
  • heraufgehen
  • d(a)raufgehen
  • hinaufgehen

Do they all mean the same?
Well, that’s a tricky question. The meanings are definitely “in the same ballpark” but I think saying that they’re the same is misrepresenting reality.
We’ll find out later, what they all are and how they relate to each other.
The most common one, at least in daily spoken German, is the r-version, which is why we use that one as a center for the whole discussion and treat the others as kind of … well… versions of the r-version.

Does every prefix verb have an r-version

Hard no!
Not all prefix verbs can have r-versions. Specifically, only the prefix verbs that start with a vowel can have an r-version, and NOT the prefix verbs with ab-, which DO NEVER have r-versions.
So here they are:

  • rauf-
  • raus-
  • rein-
  • rum-
  • ran-
  • rüber-
  • runter-

But not every verb that CAN have an r-version actually HAS an r-version.

Prefix verbs that start with a consonant cannot have an r-version and the reason is simply that it’s impossible to pronounce.

  • rvorgehen
  • rzurückkommen

I mean, German can sound shitty but not THIS shitty.
Why does ab have no r-version? Well, no clue, honestly.

  • rabgehen

That would work from a pronunciation point of view. But rab- just isn’t a thing.

Anyway, the verbs that CAN’T have an r-version can still have a her-version, hin-version or dr-version. Or all of them. Because the r-version is basically a derivative from these versions.
But make no mistake – it’s very much helpful to think of them as their own thing.
Which brings us right to the next question.

Are “r-versions” just colloquial, shortened versions of “her-versions”

And this one is a stone cold, steel hard NO!!!
And still, quite a few learners get taught this.
You see, when you try to learn about r-versions online or you ask your teacher about it, you’ll usually get something like this:

“Oh, rausgehen is a shortened version of herausgehen, it’s colloquial and only used in spoken.”

And this is… well… neither helpful, nor thought through.
For two reasons.

Number 1 – “colloquial” is giving a wrong impression

When learners hear “colloquial”, they tend to think “not ideal” because they want to learn “proper German”. Which is a great in general but not here. Because you simply can’t just replace all r-versions with a her-version and expect it to be idiomatic.
It’s NOT!
Like with rausgehen for example:

  • Lass uns ein bisschen rausgehen.

This is perfect!

  • Lass uns ein bisschen herausgehen.

This is trash.
Seriously… it does NOT sound like high German, it just sounds super strange. Yes, herausgehen does exist, but it simply doesn’t work in this context here. Many r-versions have kind of become a verb for themselves and their her-version sounds out of place or doesn’t cover the full range of meaning (we’ll find out later why that is the case)
You can often shorten a her-version to an r-version but doesn’t always work in reverse. And that’s also because of reason number 2.

Number 2 – Not every r-version even comes from “her-“

Yes, you read that right. NOT every r-version goes back to a her-version.

A great example for that is raufmachen. Raufmachen is a word you’ll need if you for example buy a Cappuccino and you want some cacao-powder on top.

  • Können Sie ein bisschen Kakaopulver raufmachen?

If you follow the common narrative, you’d just use heraufmachen here, but that word actually doesn’t exist. Neither Duden, nor Wiktionary or Dict.cc list it.

The reason is that raufmachen is actually technically a short version of daraufmachen or draufmachen, respectively.

And we have the same restrictions here that we had for her-versions. So many dr-versions can be shortened to r-versions, but not always the other way around and sometimes the r-version and the dr-version have different meanings.

Like… draufgehen which can mean to die while raufgehen means to go up and the “non-colloquial counterpart” of which, according to Duden (the subpar website that needs to get its act together), is hinaufgehen.

Are you confused yet?

Good! That means you’re a human being!!
Hold on to that :)!
All that matters from this last segment is that you can see that this idea that r-versions are “just a colloquial form of her-versions” is… well… uninformed nonsense.

Wrap up

I believe, r-versions deserve to be treated as a legit “thing” and not ignored as they so often are by courses, teachers and textbooks.
They’re an essential piece of everyday conversation because they often carry the most literal, basic meaning that you can imagine for a prefix verb.
And besides r-versions, there are also her-versions, hin-versions and dr-versions. But they don’t always mean the same.

Next time, in part two, we’ll dig a little deeper into the versions and see how and why the came to be and how they all relate to each other and what verbs tend to have which versions.
It’s going to be nerdy, but also very insightful, so stay tuned.

But for today, we’re pretty much done, and I hope this cleared things up a little.
I know this was a bit short for examples, but this overview is meant as a supplement to the articles in the Prefix Verbs Explained series.
As always, if you want to test how much you remember, you can take the little quiz I have prepared.
And of course, if have any questions or suggestions just leave me a comment.
I hope you liked it und bis zum nächsten Mal :)

 

Find part two here:

What are r-versions – Part 2

 

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What are r-versions - Key Questions

They are versions of German prefix verbs where the prefix starts with an extra "r" sound. Think "raufmachen", "reingehen", "rauskommen". The little "r" changes the meaning completely. The r-versions are usually very literal and about "space". There are also her-, hin- and dr-versions, but r-versions are the most common and I use the term as a headline for the entire group.

Yes. They are super common in everyday German and often carry the most basic, literal meaning you need to say natural things. Start using them early.

No. That's a common myth. Sometimes an "r-version" comes from a "her-" or "dr-" form, but not always. And you can't reliably swap them. For example:
·Lass uns ein bisschen rausgehen.
·Let's go outside for a bit.

·Lass uns ein bisschen herausgehen.
·This sounds wrong or odd in that context.

Also "raufmachen" is actually related to "draufmachen" or "daraufmachen", not "heraufmachen".

When you learn a new prefix verb, check if there's an "r-version" and learn its basic literal meaning. Use them in speech and look them up if meanings feel unclear. They often cannot be replaced by other versions without sounding odd.

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tony
tony

“… which DO NEVER have…”
this is 100% wrong (as mentioned below) but I can’t see why!
“which NEVER have” and “which DON’T EVER have” and “which DO NOT EVER have” are all fine.

Maybe English is just as difficult as German, after all

Marcellus
Marcellus

In my series prefix verbs explained, I always mention the r-version, and it’ll also play a role in the card game and app I am working on. So… lots to come.

App? Sir, are you working on an App that teaches German?

Marcellus
Marcellus
Reply to  Emanuel

Understandable. And I can relate to that.

Thanks for the links

Ilonka215
Ilonka215

Great article! One small suggestion :
“for themselves” could be better expressed as “of their own” or “independent”.
Could no r-version for “ab” be because the prefixes that do have an r-version indicate the idea of toward something instead of away?

octavia
octavia

R-version ASMR: this episode of Die Maus where they explain and show over and over why the latch of a doorknob does not move the doorknob, although the doorknob moves the latch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-xbX89AFg

octavia
octavia
Reply to  Emanuel

You know, I wondered about that! I watched various portions of that video A LOT at various speeds and I think what the girl is saying is actually “wenn man die Klinke {confused mumble}drückt…” like she couldn’t grab a specific preposition in time. It’s more apparent at .75 speed. On the other hand that could just be an overly developed fan theory, LOL.

It really is such a great program. I’m sort of obsessed. So calm and clear and interesting, and a soothing lack of that loud commercial sense that’s all over American media. I’m so glad I can finally understand it without much strain.

Hyuri
Hyuri

I’ve read the masterpiece before but i’m back here because idk where to make this question but here so there:
When is the now officially named ‘r-version’ unnecessary?
Like, sometimes i be making examples using the r-version on Google Translator or Chatgpt to see if they right, but sometimes they just be changing it to a normal version of the verb
Like when i tried to use Rausfallen in the past form and Chatty (that works really hard) just changed it to ‘Gefallen’
I hope you get what i’m saying here :p

Hyuri
Hyuri
Reply to  Emanuel

Let’s see
-I tried to make a sentence using ‘reinpassen’ on Google Translator
‘Da das Zimmer voll ist, passt der Bett nicht mehr rein’
(IDK if that’s idiomatic in german)
And when i flip the languages, it just turns into the normal ‘Passt’, making it seems like it is just something to expecify and it’s not really necessary, but something felt shaddy and that’s why i’m here

-Another one was with ‘rausfallen’
‘Mein Handy ist aus meiner Tasche rausgefallen’
Interesting enough, if i remove where it fell from, the Translator changes it to the said longer version ‘herausfallen’ which i guess would be the same in this context, whatever

Is the translator stupid or am i doing something wrong?
The thing is that i don’t really have a way to confirm if a sentence is right without using those things.

Cucciadati
Cucciadati

In your last example about a friend wanting to come in, the answer is, du kannst reinkommen. When I lived in Germany and someone knocked on the door, the response I always heard was, Komm herein, or just herein. Is this an exception?

Cucciadati
Cucciadati
Reply to  Emanuel

I was living in Mönchengladbach and then later in Leipzig

Great_God_Om
Great_God_Om

This may have been asked before but is there any meaningful difference between using a preposition and the accusative case to specify motion vs a preposition and an r-variant? e.g. in etw gehen vs in etw. reingehen. I hear it more commonly in grimm stories.

Great_God_Om
Great_God_Om
Reply to  Emanuel

Thank you very much. This was very helpful. There really should be more information about this topic in learning material

Anonymous
Anonymous

What would be the long formal version of the slur word “Raus !!” ?

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Bissell
Bissell

Hey there. Came back to this again for a second helping of “r” – luckily this was the main topic not too long ago. However, I think this article and the Part 2 (3?) needs to show up in the ‘various topics’ Grammar section of the website with the Da – and Wo – words. Typing R-words into the search field didn’t do it, and chasing one of the many runterxxxxx words in the dictionary with links to a more in depth look also didn’t take me here.

I go back to the Grammar area and re-re-read articles often. I would imagine that others do as well. Sometimes you just need to know the absolute basics, so you get what you need and leave, but other times you have a rainy day (VERY uncommon in South Texas) and you want to spend time refreshing what you think you know about the language. Just my 2 cents.

Andrew
Andrew

having subscribed to the Newsretter the annoying subscrbe screen continues to appear, it occupies far too much screen space, please could you remedy this please

Krzysztof
Krzysztof

Hi, I just want to say a big THANK YOU for all of the people who paid a little extra, so people who can’t afford the subscription are enabled to learn german with this website for free. I received that possibility and I am very very VERY grateful. I am not able to work right now and in my home there are also some “parental-kind-of” issues when it comes to money. So again, I am very grateful for being able to study here for free for a whole year!

Krzysztof

rodrigo.haas
rodrigo.haas

Thank you so much for this r-version series. This is one of my main german-learning doubts.

Amanda
Amanda

I am stuck behind a paywall because I have supposedly already seen two posts this week… But I have opened one post of yours in my life. It’s quite discouraging.

Erdem
Erdem

I should thank you, for all the supporters out there. With the support of yours, I am able to become a premium member and learn German. Thank you again to Emanuel for this helpful website. Viel Spaß beim Lernen alle!

patrik.osgnach
patrik.osgnach

“I mean, German can sound shitty but not THIS shitty.”
Here I laughed hard… but it made me think about all the slavic languages which manage to have words with nice sequences of consonants

If I say “Ich gehe aus”, what am I saying?

pmccann
pmccann
Reply to  patrik.osgnach

Usually “I’m going out (to a restaurant/bar/theatre etc)”, I believe: that is, you’re “going out *to*” somewhere. But you can also “gehe mit jemandem aus”, as in “dating/going_out with”.

pmccann
pmccann
Reply to  Emanuel

Aah, thanks a lot, that’s good to know. A certain language-learning game whose name I dare not speak still throws “ausgehen” into the mix. For example, with new year’s resolutions: “Ich werde weniger ausgehen und mehr sparen” as “I will go out less and save more money”. On the slightly brighter side of things, DeepL happily coughs up “Ich werde weniger weggehen und mehr sparen” when fed that English starter, but offers the “ausgehen” version as an alternative.

pmccann
pmccann
Reply to  Emanuel

Yes, yes, they’ll be working on working on working on working on it right now. I can actually hear the committees being formed as I type this comment. All of this is going to operate in glorious harmony with those armies of highly educated speakers of English and German pumping out unbeatable sentences such as “Der Kaiserin hat ständig die Blumen im Garten kritisiert” (no, I’m not joking: “Der Kaiserin”) and “This spiders are venomous” as a translation for “Diese Spinnen sind giftig”. (Ef)fluency in every direction, at all times.

patrik.osgnach
patrik.osgnach
Reply to  pmccann

Ha, that’s funny… following what Emanuel said above..
Ich werde weniger ausgehen und mehr sparen -> I’ll stop spending the little money I have on operas and fancy dinners and save something

patrik.osgnach
patrik.osgnach
Reply to  Emanuel

Thanks… I’m sure I already dropped an “ich gehe aus” in the past meaning weggehen
Actually… I think I said “gemma aus?”

patrik.osgnach
patrik.osgnach
Reply to  Emanuel

Don’t ask me, I’m Italian :D
I quickly adopted the “gemma” semantics but I’m not sure if I ever heard a native say “gemma aus”
For sure they say “gemma trinken?” or “saufma?”

Cccccxc
Cccccxc
Reply to  Emanuel

I was talking to a couple of colleagues of mine today – both are around 18-20- neither of them had ever heard of weggehen and both use ausgehen. Are you sure ausgehen is so unidiomatic?

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

yeah.. i’ll ask a few more people about this cus i’m curious now….

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

ok so i asked another collegue who a bit older (late 20s i guess) and more in the berlin club scene and he confirmed what you said basically, that lots of people use weggehen and that ausgehen sounds much more elegant. The way he explained it it was like “weg” from reality…

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

the ole “backronym”.. and….you must have be using the term a while then…

xv
xv
Reply to  xv

actually thats not a backronym.. but its similar

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

Well, yeah. The state of techno is really a topic I could talk about for hours tbh. I feel like club music really fulfilled its potential the last decade and is so exciting but i don’t see that reflected in what seems to be popular.

Out of interest have you read “Der Klang der Familie” btw? I read the english translation first but have pretty much finished re reading it in german.

nadgerz
nadgerz
Reply to  Emanuel

So, you would recommend saying “Ich gehe weg” instead?

Emanuel
Admin
Emanuel
Reply to  nadgerz

“Ich gehe feiern” is what I usually use nowadays, but weg also works.

nadgerz
nadgerz
Reply to  Emanuel

Ah, makes sense. I always think “Ich gehe weg” means “I am going away (from here)” but not necessarily for anything special. In fact almost the opposite :)

Parul Batra
Parul Batra

Thank you for giving valuable insights into the most confusing R-version for a german learner
Never found any explanation in any book so far.

xv
xv

On my lunchbreak i just happened to read the word “rin” – is this a colloquial shortening of “drin” or a berlinisch spelling of of “rein” (there was some other berlinisch in the text) ?

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

cool, thanks! Makes total sense it would be that now you say it…

Ahmad Mazaheri
Ahmad Mazaheri

Hallo lieber Emmanuel,
Ich danke dir schon, für diesen wertvollen Artikel .
Ich Frage mich dennoch wie ein kleines deutsches Kind, sagmal in 5 er Klasse kann diesen zweien Begriffe ( herunter/ runter , hinauf/ rauf )zu verstehen ohne stört zu sein.
Weil verstehe ich dies als zwei Ebene, öffentliches versus umgangliches ( oder schriftliches v.sprachliches ) . Oder ?
Im Voraus vielen Dank .

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  Emanuel

Herzlichen Dank.

Veen
Veen

Rab doesn’t exist because it means God in Punjabi.

Ignore this pseudophilosphical comment.

So about raufmachen. I’m grateful for this article. I often have trouble speaking basic sentences in german because I’ve no idea which verb fits. In case of this verb, is there a reason it’s not there in dict.cc? Nor the full Version daraufmachen. And I know I shouldn’t literally translate but I’m still curious why isn’t there a form of the word put to be used in this situation and instead there’s do. Do some cocoa on the top. Translator btw says steuern which sounds fancy. My professor insists on us using high academic german but I don’t want to in real life situations. What’s the point of discussion Kant and stuff if I can’t order coffee in German (Well not that I can do that in languages I’m fluent in ).

Do consider making a list of basic verbs that you guys can’t do without. Und danke sehr für noch einen großartigen Artikel!

Adityapa
Adityapa
Reply to  Emanuel

Danke! Kannst du mir auch sagen ob dieses Verb trennbar ist oder nicht?

xv
xv

I wonder if in some ways could be considered a sort of mood of the verbs…

xv
xv
Reply to  Emanuel

Yeah, i figured it wouldn’t be in a strictly formal sense but it started a whole train of thought about how grammatical / linguistic catorgories are defined.