Hallo ihr lieben,
und viel Spaß mit dem zweiten Türchen von unserem Adventskalender. Each day we’ll take a peek into my upcoming book and learn about the why and what of one prefix verb.
“Türchen” is the standard word for that, by the way… little, cute door :).
Anyway, viel Spaß
der Bedarf, das Bedürfnis
They look like dürfen, smell like dürfen, heck, they even comen from dürfen – but they don’t taste like dürfen at all.
Today’s dürfen is about having permission. For a long time though it was about something quite different: needing (old English had that verb, too).
This old meaning is still alive in the verb bedürfen which means to need. The “be“ just makes the need a little stronger. This verb goes with a Genitive. Ewwww. No wonder it is so rare nowadays. But some of the related words are rather common.
Der Bedarf is a need or requirement in a more technical or objective sense. Das Bedürfnis is what you yourself feel like you need.
bedürftig – in need, needy, poor
bedarfsgerecht – according to the need/requirement
note also: dürftig – poor (in quality)
- That requires my full attention.
- Das bedarf meiner vollen Aufmerksamkeit (gen). (rare)
- Der Energiebedarf steigt.
- The energy demand is rising.
- Ich habe ein starkes Bedürfnis nach Ruhe.
- I have a strong longing/need for calm.
If you have questions, let me know. Ansonsten bis morgen.
Würde ich “der Bedarf” für eine Anwendung benutzen? Zb, in der Sinn von “Die Bedarfs für die Software-Anwendung sind unmöglich zu erfüllen”. Oder ist dann es anderes Wort?
Meinst du im Sinne von “what the software is supposed to do”? Dann nein, da wäre das richtige Wort “Anforderungen”.
– Der Bedarf für die Software-Anwendung…
Das klint wie “the need for the software”.Übrigens, “der Bedarf” hat keinen Plural.
In der Tat! Danke für die Erklarung.
What about the software’s requirements/dependencies (for installation/use)?
etwas wie…
Der Bedarf dieses Programmpackets umfasst eine alte schlecte Version von SSL.
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Nope, the sentence makes no sense to me. It sounds like the software package has some certain need. I’m actually not sure what a good translation would be because I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, exactly. What would the sentence be in English?
The dependencies of this program include an old, rubbish version of SSL.
Okay, that didn’t help. I don’t understand what that means. Does the program depend on that crap SSL to function?
Exactly, a software dependency is a piece of other software required to run the software in question.
Hmm.. I feel like “Anforderung” might work, but it doesn’t strike me as particularly idiomatic. I looked it up on “linguee.com” (real world translation snippets) and there they used “Softwareabhängigkeit” Still, I feel like especially in informal speech people would phrase it using a verb (Die Software X benötgt/braucht Software Y um zu funktionieren)
Vielen Dank für alles, was Sie für die machen, die Deutsch zu lernen versuchen! (Könnten Sie bitte sagen, ob dieser Sazt grammatisch korrekt ist?)
Ja, der Satz ist perfekt! Super!
Hi I have question, if you want to express time in the past what do you say? http://yourdailygerman.com/2012/10/22/german-time-prepositions/
I think that time + “lang” , when do you use “in” and “für”?
Could you maybe make the same comment again over at the time post? I’d move it but I can’t and I think it’s better to have the answer there because others are probably wondering the same. Thanks
I think “bei Bedarf” is probably the most common context in which I see “Bedarf/bedürfen” in normal usage. (I’d say “as/if needed” is probably the most idiomatic English equivalent.)
Good example, that’s indeed really common. Another good one is “Danke, keinen Bedarf”(thank you, no need) which is used in context of declining annoying sales reps.
– Wollen sie ein Probeabo?
– Nein, danke, kein’n Bedarf.
– Das bedarf meiner vollen Aufmerksamkeit (gen). (rare)
Warum mag keiner den Genitiv? :-( Anyway, are you saying the use of the genitive in that sentence is rare, or the verb is becoming rare? If the verb, what would be used instead – perhaps “brauchen”?
I meant the verb. You don’t hear this structure a lot. The combination with “Aufmerksamkeit” is somewhat common but generally people use “brauchen”. Using “bedürfen” with Dative or Accusative sounds pretty wrong to my ears