Conditional in German – 1

Hello everyone,

and welcome back to the German is Easy – Grammar Course,  the course that Einstein mentioned in one of his most famous quotes…

“Nothing moves faster than light. But your progress
when you take the German is Easy course comes pretty close.”

Okay, he didn’t say that.
But I’m pretty sure he would have, had he not destroyed the time machine he had built after Schrödinger’s cat had told him what would happen if he didn’t
( find out what Einstein saw, here).
Now you’re probably like  “Ugh… Emanuel is using his intro for shit posting again.” but NO! Not this time. This intro was super on topic because today, we’ll start our mini series about

Conditional in German

What I mean by that are all those phrasing like I would…, If I were you… or I could have had. Super important, useful stuff that we use every day and yet, learners are making lots of mistakes there; even at an advanced level. Which is weird, because the rules are actually pretty simple and straight forward.
In this mini series, we’ll go over all you need to know. And today, we’ll start with a little overview over the topic.
So would you have been ready to must have… uhmm…  had to could have had … uh… been jumped in…. erm… or something?
Great :)

Two things I want to say right off the bat.

Number 1:
Conditional is NOT the “official” name. That would be Konjunktiv II (called subjunctive in English, most of the time), not to be confused with Konjunktiv I which is something entirely different.
But I’m not going to use them because I don’t think they’re helpful. They’re not descriptive and things actually get quite confusing once you look more closely. If you want, I can give you a more detailed explanation in the comments about why I am not using them. Conditional isn’t perfect either, but I think it is at least intuitive and so if you’re familiar with the “normal” terms, please just roll with me.
Keep in mind that this is not meant to be a linguistic analysis. It is a guide for a learner and as such, it doesn’t technically have to be “scientific” – it just needs to work.

Number 2:
Though there are seemingly a lot of similarities between German and English, I will pretty much NEVER compare the two languages. And neither should you – it is a recipe for disaster. Because even though the forms are basically the same in the languages, the usage is vastly different. Like… yes, would and würde are basically soul-brothers but don’t let that fool you into thinking that you can always translate would to würde. 50% of the time that will result in an un-salvageable, unintelligible mess.
It’s really important that we think of the German Conditional as its own thing and learn to build it in German – not take an English sentence and translate the parts. Of course, I will give you the English translations for things but whenever the urge comes to compare… just sit with it and then let it go :).

Cool. And now let’s dive right in with a little overview of what we’re actually talking about

Conditional – what is it

In the intro I already said that it’s the could-should-would-stuff.
The name Conditional is based on the fact that the number one use for this specific marking are conditional statements. 

  • I would give you a cookie  if I had one

But not every conditional statement HAS to have a conditional marking.

  • I will give you a cookie if I have one.

So informing us that there is a condition is NOT the core of the Conditional. But what is it then?
When you look to textbooks, they’ll usually give you a list of what the “Konjunktiv II” (which we call Conditional) is used for and leave it at that. But I think there’s actually a common theme and after weeks and weeks of tedious lab work, CrossFit  and consulting a shaman I was able to put it into words.

The Conditional shifts a statement away from reality.

Nothing more, nothing less. The effect that that shift has, the question how hypothetical and unreal the statement becomes is NOT clearly defined.
Let’s look at a few examples in English and see what effect that shift has in different contexts.

  • I kissed you because you asked.
  • I would have kissed you, if you had asked.
    (I feel like some English speakers would say just “asked” here.
    I’m not arguing that it’s wrong, but what I do argue is that it’s not logical;
    challenge me in the comments ;). 

Here, we’re talking about the past tense and one key feature of the past tense is that it’s fixed. So when you shift a statement away from that line you automatically make it unreal.
Now let’s take this sentence:

  • I will kiss you if you ask.
  • I would kiss you if you asked.

Same statement as before but this time, it is set in the future. And because the future is by its very nature NOT reality yet, but just bunch of options, using the Conditional marker to shift our statement does NOT make it completely unrealistic. I mean… where there’s no fixed real, there’s no fixed unreal, right? So the effect of the shift here is merely making it sound a bit less likely.
One more example:

  • Can you kiss me real quick?
  • Could you kiss me real quick?

This is basically the same question. The only effect using a Conditional marking is making it sound a bit more polite. Which ties in fine with the core idea, actually. You see, shifting the statement (further) away from reality you acknowledge the fact that the other person has a will of their own and might say no. It is less demanding, less “intrusive”.

Cool… so now that we have an idea of the “thing” Conditional in general, let’s get more specific and turn our eye to German.

Conditional in German – a brief Overview

The Conditional in German exists in two tenses: the past and the non-past. Well, technically there also exists a version for the future and maybe another one which I am not aware of, but they’re about as useful as as dandruff.
So, yeah… in practice, there’s past conditional and non-past conditional. The past conditional is used to talk about … Cpt. Obvious, please tell us..
“Veganism.”
Bro!!! You were supposed to say “The Past”! Gee, you had one job.

  • Captain Obvious hätte seinen Job gut gemacht, wenn er “Past” gesagt hätte.
  • Captain obvious would have done his job well, if he had said “Past”.

It’s sentences like these that most learners are having trouble with, and one of the reasons is that they think they can translate directly from English.  Have I mentioned that you can’t, yet? Well… you still can’t :).
Cool. Now, the non-past conditional talks about stuff that is NOT in the past… so either the present or the future.

  • “Was für ein toller Sonnenuntergang.”
    “Er wäre schöner, wenn es nicht regnen würde.”
  • “What an amazing sunset.”
    “It would be more beautiful, if it weren’t raining.”

  • Ich würde mich freuen, dich zu sehen.
  • I’d be happy to see you.

For the non-past conditional, there are actually TWO versions for every verb.  Let’s call them würde-conditional and real condition. Here’s an example.

  • Ich würde gerne wissen, wieviel Maria wiegt. (würde-conditional)
  • Ich wüsste gerne, wieviel Maria wiegt.  (real conditional)
    (I’d like to know how much Maria weighs.)

Now, wissen is one of the verbs that actually uses both forms, but for most of the verbs, only one will sound idiomatic. Most of the verbs use the würde-conditional but the few that do use the other version are incredibly important and common… haben, sein, the modal verbs, gehen, sehen and a few more.
And if all this made you go like “Hmmm…. that sounds familiar.”
Well, that’s because it is. It is the exact same setup as for the past tense in German, with spoken past and written past
(if you don’t know about that stuff, you should check out my series on past tense. Link below). 

Cool. So now you have an overview and what we need to do in this series is basically this:

  1. learn how to build the würde-conditional
  2. learn how to build the real conditional
  3. train to use them (when)
  4. learn how to build the past conditional
  5. get frustrated over certain aspects of the past conditional
  6. pull ourselves together and own the shit of the past conditional

If that doesn’t sound like a plan then I don’t know what does.
And because the würde-conditional is SO  easy to build and we have a bit of time left, we’ll talk about that real quick.

How to build the würde-conditional

The würde-conditional is what we’ll need for the vast majority of the verbs (about 98.6573% to give you a precise guess).
It is called würde-conditional because it is built with the help of würde… or würden or würdest and so on.
What is this würde-thing?
Well, it’s actually the real conditional form of werden. To give you a bit of background… the würde-conditional is actually derived from the German tense nobody uses… the future. And it’s the same in English. There, the future is signaled by the helper verb will and the conditional is often marked by would... which is a form of will.
Yeah… I know it looks different but I’m totally not comparing, here. #nocomparison 

Anyway, so yeah… to build the würdeconditional of a sentence, all we need to do is take würde, add the proper ending and put it into the verb position. And the verb that describes the action gets dictionary form. Sounds WAY less clear than it actually is, so let’s just look at an example. This…

  • Ich gehe um 6 in den Park.
  • I will go to the park at 6.

becomes this…

  • Ich würde um 6 in den Park gehen.
  • I would go to the park at 6.

Easy, right? RIGHT?!?!?!
It’s basically the same structure as the future tense…. oh… wait, nobody cares about that.
It’s basically the same structure as if we were using a modal verb.

  • Ich würde um 6 in den Park gehen.
  • Ich kann um 6 in den Park gehen.

Do you see? It is the exact same sentence structure and the only difference is würde. Now, for completion let’s also do an example with a “all verbs at the end”-sentence and a question.

  • Würdest du das Buch kaufen?”
    “Ja, wenn es nicht so viel kosten würde.”
  • Would you buy the book?”
    “Yes, if it didn’t cost that much.”

And now it’s your turn.
“WHAT?! Already?!?!?!”
Yes, already :). We’ll use my patented method of Learnacise®…. learning by exercise (@Harvard:  I’m still open to sharing this system, but you need to up your offer for my method).
I’ll give you a 10 German sentences and you have make them into a conditional. Some of them are fill in the blank type questions, for others you have to put the elements in the right order.
They get progressively harder and tricky, but the goal is that you get a feel for the system, not that you get them all right.
I give you the normal German sentence (without conditional) and the English conditional version as a help. And if you need a hint, you can listen to the solution in the audio.
Oh and you don’t have have the ü-umlaut on your keyboard… NO PROBLEM! Just use “ue”, it’ll be correct too.
So… viel Spaß and I’ll see you in a few minutes :).

(oh and please let me know if there are errors in the exercise… I added a new improved version just a few days ago and sometimes I mess up with the marking)

And, how did you do?? If you did have problems with any of these, please share in the comments, and we’ll clear it all up.
Now, this was really just a small, technical exercise so you get to train the form of the würde-conditional. We’ll do a really big, more challenging one, as well,  but we need to talk about the real conditional first.
Which is what we’ll do next time :).

So, that’s it for today. This was our little introduction in the world of Conditional in general and the würde-conditional in particular.
Here’s a super brief recap:

  • “Conditional” is a marking that shifts a statement away from the line of reality
  • We call it Conditional because the “official” names suck (let’s meet in the comments if you disagree ;)
  • The exact effect of that shift depends on context
  • Conditional can be built for the past and the non-past
  • For the non-past, every verb has two versions of it, würde-conditional and real conditional
  • Which version is used depends on what’s idiomatic for the verb

As always, if you have any questions about any of this so far or if you want to complain that I’m not using the official names, just leave me a comment.
I hope you liked it and see you next time.

If you’re still fit, you can continue right with part two:

Conditional in German 2 – The Real Conditional

Further reading:

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Halbri
Halbri
4 months ago

I’m using Chrome. I had this problem in the past but it suddenly self-corrected. Seems to be back

Halbri
Halbri
4 months ago

I need to adjust the audio speed (the speaker is too quick for my ears) but the “Audio Speed” dial doesn’t work.

Halbri
Halbri
5 months ago

I find the speed of the spoken German answers too fast. There’s an “Audio Speed” icon in the lower right corner of the screen, but it is inoperative.

Halbri
Halbri
5 months ago

OK, I finally figured our how to put the sentence in correctly.

Halbri
Halbri
5 months ago

I’m stymied. How do I rearrange the word order when none of the fields are live?
What am i missing?

Halbri
Halbri
5 months ago

I wasn’t able to insert my solution to the first question. I tried to write,”Ich wuerde im Park joggen gehen,” but none of the fields were live.

Halbri
Halbri
5 months ago

“Yeah… I know it looks differently but I’m totally not comparing, here.”
 I think this should be “different” not “differently.” In this usage, it’s not an adverb. I think it’s called a predicate adjective. It’s really saying, “I know it’s different….” An example of its use as an adverb: “I think I would do this differently. The verb is “do.” Please correct me if you find an error in my comment.

Pia
Pia
10 months ago

I thought got them all correct, even when I listened to your audio afterwards, but it tells me #1 #8 #9 were incorrect and I am not sure why? Is it a bug?

Monty
Monty
11 months ago

You are correct that it SHOULD be, “I would have kissed you, if you HAD asked.”

The reason many native English speakers omit the “had” is due to a colloquial combination of efficiency and slurring. Over time, this practice eroded the “had” until it vanished completely.

Here’s a progression:

I would have kissed you, if you had asked.

I would’ve kissed you, if you’d’ve asked.

I would’ve kissed you, if ya’d asked.

I woulda kissed you, if ya asked.

;)

Monty
Monty
11 months ago
Reply to  Emanuel

Lol

Gerne geschehen!

Starbuck
Starbuck
3 months ago
Reply to  Emanuel

That’s a nice way to sum it up yeah ^^

Most natural for me would be:

I’d’a (or I’d’ve) kissed you, if you’d asked.

But I want to put more emphasis on the “would” then I’d say “woulda” or “would’ve”. Personally I wouldn’t leave out the “had” altogether because it sounds messed up mixing past and future tenses like that.

cbodien@yahoo.com
cbodien@yahoo.com
25 days ago
Reply to  Monty

Lol super!

drjhasudha
drjhasudha
1 year ago

gute Ubueng

TheBestLanguageEver
TheBestLanguageEver
1 year ago

Hi Emanuel! Ich würde 1M Euro für deine Lektionen bezahlen, wenn ich es hätte… wirklich toll!

kymberlaii
kymberlaii
1 year ago

Hi Emanuel! I downloaded the pdf file, but the font color of the non past conditional sentences on page 6 is so bright (yellow) and I can’t even read it. It hurts my eyes when I read it.

I hope you’ll change the color. Thank you!

Übrigens habe ich dieses Thema heute nachvollziehen können.

DianaM
DianaM
1 year ago

Hi, I had a couple of problems with the quiz. For #10, you didn’t have “mir” in the filled-in part of the sentence, so I tried putting it in (i.e., “Ich würde mir” and it didn’t like that.

Also, it’s an even tinier thing, but while you had the final full stop in a separate box for the other sentences, for #9 you had it in the same box with one of the “würde”s. My eyes are old and weak, and I didn’t notice and got them reversed. Not complaining, exactly – I’m here to learn, not to score points, ha – but it was VERY puzzling for quite a while!

Anyhow, I do really appreciate your wonderful blog. Thank you.

Cornlou1
Cornlou1
1 year ago

You make me laugh every morning – and learn some German!

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

Excellent website! Am struggling to find time to get back to studying German – but your website is one I will be going to. (One edit correction: the sentence: “which we call Conditional) is used for an leave it at that.” – should be: “which we call Conditional) is used for and leave it at that.” ie and vs an )

Rachel Evans
Rachel Evans
1 year ago

Just having a massive catch-up read….all hugely entertaining and informative. Interestingly, I shoe-horned the subjunctive into my German A’Level (35 years ago) so many times, I think it made up for all my other shortcomings…ich hatte die ganze Nacht tanzen konnen (sorry, can’t do the two umlauts). Lovin’e your work, Emanuel.

Berke
Berke
2 years ago

that was really amazing, thank you

Raiean
Raiean
2 years ago

From the exercises it seems that when there’s a wenn (No pun intended), another würde comes up at the end. Can you please elaborate on this a bit? I’m sorry if I sound stupid.

Nbyrne37
Nbyrne37
2 years ago

Then there’s “Had I known, …”

Giorgi
Giorgi
3 years ago

Feels like home! All the details I could not wrap my head around are so well emphasized.