German Adjective Endings 3 – The nerd portion

Hello everyone,

and welcome to the last part of the mini series on

German adjective endings

So far, things were simple. Part 1 (find it here), the most important one, was about adding an -e to the adjective as soon as it precedes a noun, no matter what.  Seriously. If you haven’t read it, then do it. In part 2 (find it here) we learned to add an extra -n to that whenever the article looks weird. If you just do that, you should get about 70 % correct. Today, we’ll take care of the extra 15 %. Oh… I mean 25% . Sorry… haha… a bit shaky with the math right there.
Now, so far it was all easy peasy but this is gonna end today. “German grammar ist kein ponyhof” as a common proverb says. Have you heard of the 80/20 rule? It’s like…  you can drink 80% of an XXL Latte with hazelnut with joy and little effort but you need to really want to finish it to drink the remaining… uhm… the remaining percent. It’s no different for adjective endings. Today will be theoretical and tedious. You will be super exhausted and so frustrated that you will never want to speak German aga..
 (wait a second… that’s not how they explained it at this “Explain things seminar”. What did the guy say? … uhm… pretend that it’s easy… yeah, that’s it…  quick… must act or I’ll lose them)
and that’s why today it’ll be surprisingly easy. We’ll breeze through a few rules and a few concepts and shabams… we’re done. We’re basically done already, we just need to wrap up the whole thing. It’ll be a walk in the park…
(By the time they realize it’s the Rocky Mountain national park, it’s too late… ) guahahhahahahaha… oh… did I just do the evil laughter aloud? Damn… anyway… without any further ado, here we go…. with a little bit of background.

The Awful German marking system

German. It has three way too many genders, four way too many cases and  2715 WAAAAAY to many ways to build the plural. That’s why linguists call it a  WTM-language by the way. But German doesn’t only have those forms. It also likes to show them around. Like… you’re just sitting there trying to read a book and German keeps waving its grammar in your face.
“Hey look what I got. Look!  Masculine singular accusative!”, it says. And you’re just like “Ugh…”
German is not the only language to do that. Many languages belong to the WTM-club and in most them the grammar is “marked”. A very common way of marking things like gender or number are endings. In English an -s marks plural for instance. And that’s exactly what the adjective endings are doing. Alongside with nouns, articles and pronouns they have to carry around certain marks for gender, case and number.
Now, we could ask “Okay, cool, so… what marker are the adjectives carrying?”
That works fairly well for Spanish

  • o – masculine, singular
  • a – feminine singular
  • os – masculine plural
  • as – feminine plural

And it is similarly straight-forward in Italian. But in German it is not that simple. Hey… STOP… come back! You can’t run away, you hear me? Learning Spanish will not solve your problems with German. Seriously though, the German marking system is REALLY messed up. Because back in the day, when the question of who has to carry what mark came up in one of the design meetings for the German language, the nouns were quite unwilling to participate. They were like
“We already carry the meaning. We will not carry anything extra. Let the articles do it.”
Of course the articles weren’t too pleased.
“What?! No fair! We are so small and we’re supposed to carry gender, case AND number while the nouns only carry ONE thing???  We’re articles, not slaves.”
And so started a debate that raged on forever. The nouns threatened to go on strike, then the articles threatened to go on strike. Then experts for efficiency were brought in. Then some sound designers. Even a student… he failed you all. And finally, after centuries of barter and bargaining, a compromise was found. A political compromise. And we all know how these THOSE look like… millions of regulations and special cases to satisfy every last group of interest… except the learners, of course.
Is it really THAT messed up? Long answer: Nouns kind of focus on plural, articles on gender and case, but they can use the same form for different things, everyone can carry everything at times or everyone just carries parts of a mark or a mark is missing entirely… it is horribly intertwined…

  • den schönen Wagen… accusative – singular  – masculine
  • der schöne Wagen… nominative – singular –  masculine
  • der schönen Wagen… genitive – plural – masculine
  • den schönen Wagen… dative – plural – masculine

I mean… can you see ANY system in that? And yes, the first and the last one are identical. It is really beyond works. And because this system is so awful, we had our German is Easy grammar team create a visualization. They said they had to use really complicated math and that it needed 3 full days to render… I haven’t looked at it myself yet so let’s have a look together right now
here it is .
Oh… uhhhhh…  I… uhm… it all becomes clear once you see it in 3D, I suppo … oh wait, never mind. it doesn’t. It does in 6D but I haven’t had enough glasses for th.. uhm… I mean… I don’t have the glasses for that. Anyway… we do not need to understand the whole system. We just need to get our adjective endings right to pass the exam :). All we need to take away from this is that it is a quasi chaotic mess and if you’re confused by it that means you’re a human being.
So… what’s do the adjectives do? They support the articles with their marking chores. To be precise … the d-articles. Hmm…d-articles. I guess we need to paint some more background…

d-articles and ein-articles

The d-articles are led by the ones we all know and love… der, die and das. Other ones in that group are diese/n/m/r/s, jene/n/m/r/s or manche/l/k/x/t/ß. Those are pretty hard workers and they do a lot of the marking for gender and case. What do they mar…oh wait…let me guess… it is totally messy and impossible to sum up.  If we ignore the plural, a very rough summary is this… in nominative and accusative, the gender is clear while the case is only for masculine.

  • nominative :  die, der, das
  • accusative:    die , den, das

In Dative and Genitive the case is sort of clear.

  • Dative:     der, dem, dem
  • Genitive: der, des,     des

Sounds super vague but it’s really all we need to know. All right let’s talk about the ein-articles.
Remember that long debate about who has to carry which mark? Well… the ein-articles got themselves some nice privileges. Back in the days, ein had argued that das in “das Bier” had to only refer to one beer, while the ein in “ein Bier”  was potentially referring to every single beer that ever existed. And that, so ein said,  was much more work than what das does…. yeah… I don’t get it either. But then the possessives chimed in … mein (my) and dein( your)  and unser (our) and so on …. and they said ” Ein is right. It should have to carry less marks than das.” And then they went on to demand the same for themselves.
“We’re carrying info about the owner so we also need marker relief.”, they reasoned.  They made a convincing argument and eventually this group, the
 ein-articles, were granted a “partial gender waiver”. A what?

  • Der Kaffee ist heiß.
  • Das Auto ist teuer.
  • Ein Kaffee ist heiß.
  • Ein Auto ist teuer.

The ein-articles (ein-, kein-,mein-, unser-…) are basically not making a distinction between neuter and masculine, as we can see in the example. And now we’re set for the adjectives… finally.

Adjectives  – taking up the mark

We’ve already learned and forgotten that the adjectives support the d-articles with their markings. So let’s maybe say it again… the adjective endings suppo blah blah blah boring.
When there is a such a d-article the adjective kind of only cheers it on.

  • das schöne Fahrrad

The adjective is just like… “Yeah, nominative or accusative, go das go!”

  • dem schönen Fahrrad

Now it is like “Yeah, NOT nominative or accusative, go dem, go!”
We can also reuse what we’ve learned last time… if the d-article is “normal” then the adjective ends in -e. If it is weird, it ends in –en.
But the adjective’s time to shine comes whenever there is no d-article around. And for one thing, that is the case if we have an ein-article. And with those, the adjective will sport the missing gender-marker – s for neuter, e for feminine and r for masculine.

  • da-s schöne Fahrrad (the pretty bike)
  • mein schöne-s Fahrrad (my pretty bike)
  • de-r schöne Mann (the…)
  • ihr schöne-r Mann (her pretty man)
  • die schöne Farbe
  • keine schöne Farbe (no nice color)

In the last example, the marker is -e for feminine. But -e is there anyway, so nothing to add here. For all the othe…  wait a second. What about the second example? It is ihr. There is no ein in ihr. But it is a possessive article and those are part of the ein-articles, even if some of them have no ein in them. And ihr doesn’t tell us the gender either. Anyway… for most of the ein-articles   the adjectives don’t have to do extra work, because the ein-articles do the same marking as the d-ones.

  • meinem schönen Mann (to my nice husband)
  • unserer netten Lehrerin (to our nice teacher)
  • seines schönen Fahrrads (his nice bike’s)

So… when there is an ein-article around, the adjective will get the few gender marks that those are missing. Those instances are incredibly common though, so you should really get used to it. If it is just ein or mein or dein or so… an adjective would get the missing mark. S for neuter, r for masculine.
All right. Now, there is another opportunity for the adjectives to stand in the lime light… when there is NO article around.

  • “What are you havin’?”
    “Water. No article.”

But with ice, please. Because  that’ll make it cold… you know… like… with an adject…never mind. Example

  • Cold water is refreshing.

And in those situations, the German adjective will take up whatever marker the d-article would have been carrying and wear it.

  • Da-s kalte Wasser ist erfrischend.
  •          Kalte-s Wasser ist erfrischend.
  • De-r heiße Kaffee schmeckt gut.
  •           Heiße-r Kaffee schmeckt gut.

And it doesn’t matter what mark it is. The adjective will take anything…

  • Zu de-m gute-n Wein esse ich Käse. (I eat cheese with the good wine.)
  • Zu              gute-m Wein sag’ ich nicht nein. (I don’t say no to good wine.)
  • Ab de-r nächste-n Woche habe ich mehr Zeit. (I will have more the starting the following week )
  • Ab            nächste-r Woche habe ich mehr Zeit. ( same as above)

Even plural.

  • Di-e schöne-n Frauen trinken Prossecco.
  •         Schön-e Frauen trinken Prosecco.

Whatever the d-article does, the adjective will do. They are really just copying and there is no special rule or anything. It’s like… the d-articles are sort of the standard for what has to be marked, as random as that may be… and the adjectives help out. And that’s alrea… wait… my red exception phone is ringing, let me take this call real quick… hey John man, I totally expected your call today… yeah, I know, I’m so glad I don’t have to learn this stuff…. … haha… definitely… so what do you have for me…. uhu…….  oh the Genitive,….. .. fascinating… … … … …. see, examples for that are so rare and contrived that I didn’t realize… thanks a lot man, bye…  All right. I’m back with you. So this was John from the exception-copter and of course there is an exception to what I just said: In Genitive masculine and neuter singular the adjective will actually NOT take on the mark. Instead it will stick with it’s -en ending that it is usually wearing if the article is “weird”… as we’ve learned in part 2. And it does that because… the noun already has the mark… which is an –s by the way… so… s marks Genitive and neuter. Did we mention that the marking system is awful? Good.

  • Der Geschmack de-s teure-n Weine-s wird überschätzt. (The taste of the expensive wine is often overestimated… is that idiomatic?? Natives to the rescue)
  • Teure-n Weine-s Geschmack wird überschätzt. ( The taste of expensive wine…)

For feminine and plural genitive, the adjective will take up the mark though… because it would be missing otherwise.

  • Di-e hohen Bäume sind beeindruckend. ( the tall trees are impressive.)
  •         Hoh-e Bäume sind beeindruckend (tall trees are impressive)
  • Der Schatten de-r hohen Bäume ist lang. (the shade of the large trees is long)
  • Auch hohe-r Bäume Schatten ist manchmal nur ein Punkt. (Also tall trees’ shade is sometime but a dot.)

The last one is an old Chinese proverb I just made up. They were so wise back then. The meaning is that even a small thing can make a big difference… wait… does that make sense? Anyway. When it comes to adjective endings small things can make a big difference …
but they rarely really do.
They’re just there and suck out the fun. Adjective endings, especially if they have to carry the load of the articles is German at its most awful. If I had to learn this I would probably be like… screw that. And that is also my advice for you. Do NOT learn this systematically. Because there is NO system. Just try to pick it up over time by reading things and listening to people talking. The more you force it the more frustrated you will get.

The three things you need to have in the back of your head are the following:

  1. add an -e. No matter what. It is always there…. okay almost always
  2. add an -en whenever the article ending is weird or is plural (check out part 2 for more on that)
  3. if there is a mark missing the adjective will take it

And the last point is what you need to take home with you of today. There is the concept of “markedness”. That is, German marks gender, case and number using endings. The system is downright absurd and attempts at understanding it can lead to brain damage. But the d-articles are the reference for what gets marked in a given situation and how. If the d-article is missing, the adjective fills in. “Wait… so I have to know the d-article ending in order to get the adjective ending correct?” Exactly. But if you don’t know the d-article ending for a situation you’re not at a stage where you should worry about adjective endings. Not because you’re stupid or a beginner or anything. It would be just a waste of time. Just stick with step 1 and 2 and then one day, you will be like

  • Wieviel kostet ein große Kaffee… wait… ein großer Kaffee because it is der Kaffee.

Getting those marks right is nothing to stress out about. Just be aware that this system of markedness is around, and that the d-articles are the role-model.  And that is it. That was our mini series on adjective endings. And if your disappointed now because you were hoping for something more “tangible”… well, at least I think that that is impossible to do. If you really want the specifics then you can always use the tables and all that theoretical crap like strong,weak and mixed declension. Those terms are weapons of mass demotivation and should be banned.
The concept of markedness doesn’t tell you right away which ending to use but it is an idea of what’s going on under the hood if you will. And it has another benefit… because the very same idea is behind all those weird pronouns

  • Wem gehört da-s Fahrrad? Das ist mein-s.
  • To whom does the bike belong? That is mine.
  • De-r kleine Hund ist ihre-r.
  • The small dog is hers.
  • Bist du mit de-m roten oder dem blauen Auto gefahren?
    Mit keine-m, ich bin gelaufen?
  • Which car were you driving with? The red one or the blue?
    With neither, I walked.

And that is quite something, I would say… now we don’t even have to do a mini-series on THAT mess :).
That’s it with the adjective endings. If you have any questions or suggestions or if you want me to give you more examples – I feel like I have been a bit stingy today :) –  just leave me a comment.
I hope you liked it and see you next time.

Oh by the way… here’s a small  exercise. And if you fail, then it’s my fault :)

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Adrian
Adrian
22 days ago

Ich habe in ein Buch “Damit steht und fällt der Erfolg eines jedes Buches.” gelesen.

mentor.duden.de akzeptiert sowohl “eines jedes” als auch “eines jeden”, was den Regeln zu Folgen scheint, als Korrekt…

Gibt es ein Unterschied zwischen “eines jedes/n” und “jedes” in diesem Kontext?

Adrian
Adrian
22 days ago
Reply to  Emanuel

Englisch für die Antwort ist ganz OK, I am still working on my German with your help (super, as ever :) )
Maybe it was just a typo in the book then, though I was even more confused by the ‘eines jeden’ combination. Is there a more general rule/grammatical explanation why German wants/tolerates the ‘eines’, when just ‘jedes’ would seem to do the job?

Bradbarrass
Bradbarrass
1 month ago

Just subscribed today! It is so cool to see how you are helping me now, and have been helping others for years.

Jayne
Jayne
2 months ago

This is the adjective ending explanation that I have been waiting for all of my German-studying life (which is less than two years). I studied linguistics as an undergrad decades ago and I could tell that this was about marking and I wanted an explanation that used the concept. I also wanted something simple enough to use quickly in spoken German. This was all that I dreamed of and hoped for and even more. My life is complete now.

Desmond
Desmond
1 year ago
  • De-r kleine Hund ist ihre-r.
  • The small dog is hers.

May i know why ‘ihre-r’ in here means ‘hers’. Because to my knowledge until now, i thought ihr means ‘you all’?

chien.yuying
chien.yuying
1 year ago

Very practical and such a fun read. (I spent four days on this topic. And three days on the the third part) Love your articles. Please keep writing!

Kazem
Kazem
1 year ago

Emanuel! you’re so geil man. your contents are really helpful.vielen dank.

Laila
Laila
2 years ago

Thank you for a great mini series! :)

I still need some clarification though –
so in the case of the indefinite article (ein), adjectives take a special ending (that is, neither -e nor -en according to your first two rules) only in the nominative/accusative feminine/accusative neutral? Because, as far as I know, in other cases the indefinite article itself takes an ending marking the gender-case.

So, for example: in dative masculine we have ‘einem schönen Mann’, and in dative neutral we have ‘einem schönen Pferd’? Is that right? (Then, sometimes we can’t tell the gender by the article+adjective)

Laila
Laila
2 years ago
Reply to  Emanuel

You’re right, my bad.
I’ll try to make my question clear, this time using the correct cases… :)

This is how adjectives should look, as far as I understand:

Nominative:
eine schöne Frau
ein schöner Mann
ein schönes Pferd

Accusative:
eine schöne Frau
einen schönen Mann
ein schönes Pferd

Dative:
einer schönen Frau
einem schönen Mann
einem schönen Pferd

Genitive:
eines schönen Mann
einer schönen Frau
eines schönen Pferd

So, if I’m not wrong – there are only three situations that don’t follow the “-e when normal, -en when weird” rule: Nominative Masculine, Nominative Neutral, and Accusative Neutral (where we have, respectively: -er, -es, -es).

Is this correct or am I missing something?

amdennis
amdennis
2 years ago

Vielen Dank!!!

I’m finally understanding adjective endings! I got a 95 % on that quiz attached, I just missed putting “Liebe” menschen instead of Lieben menschen, because I thought it was plural! :) This was so helpful!

Nedim
Nedim
2 years ago

This was super helpful lol

Ziye
Ziye
2 years ago

Hello, Emanuel.
Thanks for those wonderful articles, they are super duper useful. I always enjoy reading your blog. Now I keep reading one article everyday. It’s already an important part of my routine.
Here I have a little question about adjective ending:
I’m confused by this sentence: ” Sie hat ihrer Tochter neue Schuhe gekauft ”
My question is why is not “neuen Schuhe” in this sentence: ”
As you wrote “For most of the ein-articles the adjectives don’t have to do extra work, because the ein-articles do the same marking as the d-ones.”
” unserer netten Lehrerin ”
” seines schönen Fahrrads ”
” seines schönen Fahrrads ”
In this case, I think ihrer belongs to ein-artices and looks wierd, so ihrer should do the same marking as the d-ones.
I’m not a native english speaker, so I might misunderstand something you wrote. Please help me when you have time. Thanks a lot :)

Ziye
Ziye
2 years ago
Reply to  Emanuel

Ahhh, now I understand. Dank schön!

st4rseeker
st4rseeker
2 years ago

I actually got 100% on the exercise! Very impressed and thankful for your amazing guidance.

Banjolover47
Banjolover47
2 years ago

I scored a 90.9% on the quiz. Missed #10 completely. Dumb mistakes. Used your system, so I’m quite pleased with the result.

turgut_gundogdu
turgut_gundogdu
3 years ago

Good day to all!! Could you explain in which situation to use no-article? Do we just use it whenever we want or is there specific situations that we can use it. Thanks in advance

Rivachu
Rivachu
3 years ago

Thank you for this post and the other two before it. I have been so confused why an adjective needed an ending after an ein word to show gender when the ein word by itself didn’t have to show gender. So your description of the words all having a debate about their responsibilities was cute and helped make it all click. I’ve also struggled with remembering how adjective endings for plurals work but your trick that “die” for plurals is actually weird (so it goes with the -en endings) is a perfect way to think of it. Thank you!!

Lamb
Lamb
3 years ago

Confused manche/l/k/x/t/ß. What does this mean ?

Lamb
Lamb
3 years ago
Reply to  Emanuel

Exactly , what I thought. Thanks for these excellent posts on the adjective endings as someone who learnt the tables and forgot. This approach really works for me. And please keep the German Humour coming.

BeeGeek
BeeGeek
3 years ago

New member here (and fairly new German leaner). Really love your 3-part series on adjectives. My question arises from the last sentence of the adjective worksheet.

Es liegt Schnee auf dem ___ Berg und regnet auf dem___ Hügel. [hoch / klein]

The answer for the first blank is “hohen,” not hochen, as I expected. Is this a one-off exception, or are there other adjectives that share this change as well?

Thanks for your valuable and entertaining explanations,

— Gina

billyd
billyd
3 years ago

Guten Morgen oder Guten Tag
Well, I am back after finishing your third chapter on adjectives. I actually went back and forth´through the three chapters several times to really grasp the concept. Your template for adjective declension is really brilliant. I used it in working through some of the Duolingo units on colors and it worked for me every time. Before i read through your chapters I really felt like the blind man and the elephant. Now for the good news. I got 95.5 on the exercise you posted at the end of chapter 3. I admit I did work through slowly but I did work it out with your help. That would have been impossible with the tables. I really do like that German language a lot and learning it has been fun if a bit challenging. Your site has been a really big help in meeting the challenge. I actually learned something new in that the adjective “hoch” changes to “hohen” in certain situations.

The one that I got wrong was sentence 10
Eine Reise ist ein schönes Geschenk für liebe Menschen. I used lieben instead of liebe. My logic ran this way. There was no article present so it was time for the adjective to step up. With für I was assuming it was now in the Dative. And Meschen referencing eine Reise earlier in the sentence is singular. So I figured the article would have been den Menschen and therefore came up with leben. Where did my logic go wrong here?
By the way, I am really impressed on how you respond to all the comments you get. Amazing and as an earnest learner very much appreciated.
Vielen dank
Bill

Ufuk
Ufuk
3 years ago

Literally the best explanation of the issue than be found on the Internet or even in any German course.

Vielen Dank!

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Your blog is useless and unhelpful for people who might’ve accidentally stumbled upon it while actually trying to learn German.

janguv
janguv
4 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I know this is an old comment from an anonymous account, but: what an utterly pointless and patently false statement. The only reason I’m on this blog, and am now a subscriber, is because I stumbled on it and preferred the explanations here to other places. I’m sure that’s true of others, going by the feedback under most posts.

johnsmith
johnsmith
4 years ago

“Instead it will stick with it’s -en ending”
Typo: it’s > its