
Hello everyone,
and welcome to a new episode of the Epic YourDailyGerman Grammar course.
And today, we’ll talk a bit about one of the lesser evils of German, namely
German Reflexive Verbs
And honestly, I feel like this is one of the topics that is really not taught well.
There are plenty of YouTube videos and textbook chapters and TikToks about the topic, and by and large, they all kind of suck, because learners never really walk away from them with that feeling of “Yeah, I actually got it!”
It’s more of a “Uh… I guess… “.
Part of the reason for that is that there is some general confusion also amongst teachers about the question what actually IS a reflexive verb and what isn’t.
Which is no wonder because reflexive verbs work differently in every language.
In Italian, for example, reflexive verbs have a special way to build the past tense.
And in Russian, you add something at the end of the verb.
So I think it’s actually worth spending a bit of time on trying to understand what actually makes a verb a reflexive verb.
That’s what we’ll do today.
We will start with a look at how it works in English, and then delve into German and see what’s going on there.
And then, we’ll also talk about the reflexive pronouns and the cases.
Lots to do, but it’ll be interesting, so if you’re ready, let’s jump right in.
Reflexive Verbs in English – They’re Rare
A common definition for reflexive verb in English is that it is an activity for which the agent and the patient are the same. So you’re “doing” something to yourself.
Here are some examples…
- I see myself in the mirror.
- The car drives itself.
- You trust yourself.
There is actually a broader definition that calls all verbs reflexive for which the subject is also some kind of object, be it direct, indirect or after a preposition.
- I love myself.
- I give myself a kiss.
- I dream of myself, too.
- I will marry myself some day.
So if we go by the “definitions” you can find online, to see, to drive, to trust, to give would all be reflexive verbs.
And I think you all would intuitively feel like “Nah, that’s not it.”
The problem with this definition is that like 70% of all English verbs would be reflexive, because we can use them reflexively.
I mean, to see oneself does not have its own entry in a dictionary, so it’s not a “separate” verb.
But does it make sense to call to see a reflexive verb because we can use it for ourselves? No, it doesn’t. This is not a useful definition at all. We don’t call verbs “past verbs” just because we can use them in past tense, right?
Instead, what we should do is to call verbs that can be used in a reflexive way without changing their meaning: verbs.
And then, there are SOME verbs that can ONLY be used in a reflexive way.
Those are the ones I would call reflexive verbs. Because they are special.
One example is to comport oneself.
You can’t say:
- I comport someone or something.
And you also can’t say:
- I comport.
The only structure that works is the reflexive one:
- I comport myself.
Not because it would add any information. If you can only ever comport yourself, then the word is empty. It is just there because grammar wants it so.
Other examples are to pride oneself or to content oneself and maybe 4 or 5 more but that’s it.
So… the way I see it, is that English can use most of its verbs in a reflexive context. And it has a few real reflexive verbs, that is, verbs that ONLY work reflexively.
Official definitions are different. But who cares. I, Iself do not.
Let’s look at German, because in Complicated it is more Germ… wait… I mixed something up… anyway
Reflexive verbs in German
When we look at the whole reflexive thing in German we come across 3 different cases… no not THOSE cases :). We could say there are 3 groups of verbs.
The first group are the ones that work like most English verbs… so.. normal verbs that can be used reflexively without changing their meaning.
- Ich sehe mich.
- Du siehst mich.
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- Ich wasche mich und mein Auto.
- I wash myself and my car.
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In German grammar books, those are often called unechte reflexive Verben… like… phony or false reflexive verbs. This is a weird name because there is nothing phony or false about them. When used in a reflexive way,they totally express the idea of reflexive. I think they should just be called… verbs. Verbs that can be used in a reflexive context. But I’ve already ranted enough about that :).
Now… what’s interesting about this group is that German uses those verbs much more often with a reflexive than English uses its counterparts. And actually most languages do… Spanish, French, Russian… but English is just like:
“I am shaving myself… ugh… too long… hey, hey context could you come over… have a job for you”
“Uhg… AGAIN???… hey English you know what… if you hadn’t rationalized so much you wouldn’t be so dependent on oth…”
“Ooooh whatever… I am dominating! I have outperformed them all and I have the most customers worldwide. So, you’re helping or what?”
“Ugh fine… what is it?”
“So… I’ll just say ‘I’m shaving’ and you’ll do all the implications?”
“Like what… like … only for men and their beards? Or also for women and their legs?”
“All of it. You can do it, buddy.”
This is not how it works in German. You have to spell things out. Let’s take the word to change. In English you can change something or you can just change. In German , you always ändern something. That something can be your shirt, or it can be yourself. But you cannot just ändern.
- Tomorrow, I will change.
- Morgen ändere ich…. WRONG
That doesn’t sound complete and every German will be like “What? What do you change?.”
- Morgen ändere ich mich.
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Examples like this are numerous.
- Thomas and Maria kissed.
- Thomas und Maria küssen…. what? What do they kiss???
- Thomas und Maria küssen sich. .. ohhhh okay... each other, I see. (don’t worry, we’ll get to the pronouns later)
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and even numerouser….
- Ich drehe das Lenkrad.
- I turn the stirring wheel.
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- Die Erde dreht sich.
- The world turns.
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I am being repetitive but I’ll repeat anyway… you drehen something. That can be yourself. But you cannot just drehen.
So… German uses its normal verbs in a reflexive way so much often because grammar wants it. And it is similar for other languages like Spanish or Russian. English is incredibly liberal with that kind of stuff.
Anyway…are all those reflexive verbs? In my eyes, no. They are just verbs that can be used in a reflexive context…. and that was group 1.
Now we get to the second group, which is probably the most interesting one. Those are the verbs that change their meaning when they are used reflexively. This change can be just a nuance or it can be complete… like a TOTAL change. Or it is somewhere in between and it is up to your mind yoga skills whether you find the meanings different or not.
Let’s do some examples.
A very close pair in my eyes is entscheiden and sich entscheiden. Entscheiden means to decide and sich entscheiden means… well… to decide.
The difference is subtle.
Sich entscheiden always has a personal component. Suppose someone comes up to you and asks you to make a decision about something you are not personally involved in… like … “Should I use Flamingos or Gibbons as a background for my phone?”… then you would just entscheiden.
If you can’t decide whether you want beer or wine, then you need to sich entscheiden. The sich makes it more personal. Managers entscheiden a lot. Women on a shopping spree entscheiden sich a lot…. or… .. they don’t. Either way, the two words are so close that we could actually put them in group 1.
Let’s look at one with a bigger difference. Aufhalten.
Among other things, it means to stop… because a language can never have enough words for to stop ;) … but it can also mean to hold up ;)…
Sich aufhalten can mean to hold up oneself. That would be the group 1 thing… you just use the verb in a reflexive context. But sich aufhalten also means to linger, to stay, to be at a place.
- Ich halte dich im Park auf.
- I stop you in the park.
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- Ich halte mich im Park auf.
- I sojourn/stay in the park.
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But are the two meanings really that different? Doesn’t holding up someone imply that that person stays at a place? The reflexive version has just a different focus than the normal one, but that is always the case.
- I close the door.
- I close the deal.
Also here, the words are not EXACTLY the same… the same idea taken from different perspectives.
So… if we want to we could also put (sich) aufhalten into group 1.
I guess it also makes sense to think of sich aufhalten as a verb of its own. Then I would call this a reflexive verb… because it is special in that it only means what it means when used WITH the reflexive pronoun. Anyway… no matter whether you think of them as separate verbs or not, it can definitely help to try and draw a connection between the normal version and the reflexive one.
Now, I said that there are ones where the meaning change is complete, so let’s look at one of those too.
- Er schickt es nicht.
- He doesn’t send it.
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Schicken means to send. And used in a reflexive context it means to send oneself. But there is another meaning…
- Es schickt sich nicht.
- It is inappropriate.
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That is clearly something else. It can be explained when you look back at the history of the verb, but nowadays the second version totally like a verb of its own…. a reflexive verb.
And thus we get to the third group… verbs that can ONLY be used with a self reference. Remember? English had only like 5 of those.
German has more… way more, and many common ones among them. One example is sich beeilen. It means to hurry up but in German you can’t use it without a self reference.
- Ich beeile… WRONG
- Ich beeile meinen Bruder… WRONG
- Ich beeile mich... correct.
- I hurry up.
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There is NO logical reason why there is a self reference. It just has to be there.It is part of the verb pretty much. Like a prefix.There is no verb beeilen as there is no verb to clude. There is just conclude and sich beeilen. And other than prefixes, this purely grammatical self reference doesn’t even carry real meaning. It is just part of the verb.
In books these verbs are often called “echt reflexiv” ( genuine reflexive) as opposed to the phony ones we had earlier. Had we called the other ones just verbs, then we could call these ones reflexive verbs… which would make sense to me because the “reflexiveness” is their essence… but jargon is jargon and I can’t just change it I guess.
There is also something you can’t change.. the fact that you have to learn these reflexive verbs by heart…. hehe… that was mean… but it is true. There is no way around it. Let’s take another example… to catch a cold.
- Ich erkälte mich.
- I catch a cold.
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There is no logical reason for the the self reference other than it just happened that way. In a parallel universe it might be.
- Ich erkälte.
and that would make just as much sense. But it’s not.
It needs a self reference. Period. This need is in fact so strong, every German thinks of it the verb as sich erkälten… not just erkälten with an optional sich… the sich is part of the verb. So learn sich erkälten... not erkälten. Sound like a lot of work but that is the bitter truth.
Now… an interesting question is, why?
Why does German have so many weird verbs that essentially have no meaning without a self reference. I don’t know for fact but I think the answer might have to do with what we’ve already seen – the tendency that verbs that need an object REALLY NEED that object.
And while not true for all the verbs it is especially true for verbs with prefixes. Among the German reflexive verbs, many are prefix verbs, like instance sich beeilen or sich erkälten or sich verspäten.
All right. Let’s recap.
Just like in English, or in any other language I guess, you can use many German verbs in a reflexive context. In grammar books those are called “unecht reflexiv”, a misleading name because they totally stay true to the reflexive idea.
Then, there is a bunch of verbs that change their meaning if used in a reflexive context. For them, it is up to you if you want to see them as separate verbs or as one facet of the normal verb. The better you are at mind yoga, the easier it becomes. Some sources file those under group 1 but in high grammar they are actually filed under group 3. Me personally, I file my nails.
The third group, called group 3… okay, that was obvious… so, those are verbs that don’t exist without a self reference. The self reference is like a prefix without meaning and is often just there for grammar’s sake. In grammar books they are called “echt reflexiv“. Those are the ones you need to learn and accept as they are.
mir, mich, sich – what’s up with this
Cool. So now that we know about what types of reflexive there are, let’s take a look at the reflexive pronouns… the words that are the self reference. In English, it is pretty simple. You just add -self or -selves to the personal pronoun and you got it. Sometimes, when, there are several people involved, you’ll have to use each other or one another but that’s it.
In German, the reflexive pronouns are pretty much the same as the personal pronouns. We do this:
- Du siehst mich (You see me)
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- Ich sehe mich ( I see me.)
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- You wash you.
- We wash us.
That is pretty cool, actually because we can just use the things we always use. The only difference is the third person… so he, she, it and they.
For all those, the reflexive pronoun is sich.
Now, why do we have to have an extra pronoun here? Wouldn’t it be easier to just also use the personal ones? Well, yes it would be easier, but it wouldn’t work. You see, if I say me.. then who could I possibly refer to other than myself. Me is always clear and so is you in a given situation.
Him is not clear. Him is not clear. Neither is her or them. There are millions of third persons out there and if there are 2 guys in a room either one can be him.
- Mike likes him.
Can’t context clear this up for us? Well, sometimes yes.. but not always… and context is very busy with English anyways :)… so it makes sense to have a special reflexive pronoun for the third person.
- Mike mag sich.
- Mike likes himself… this is clear now.
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- Mike mag ihn.
- Mike likes him (some other guy… oh crap… there are 3 guys… uh… hey, context… uh… do you have a minute?).
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The cool thing about sich is that it works for all of them… masculine, feminine, neuter…and even the plural.
- Thomas mag sich.
- Maria mag sich.
- Das Kind mag sich.
- Die Menschen mögen sich.
So… this sich is the only true reflexive pronoun German has and it is so iconic that even indicates “reflexiveness” itself… just look in a dictionary… the default forms of reflexive verbs are sich something … sich beeilen, sich ärgern, sich erkälten.
If you want to use such a verb then you just have to insert the appropriate self reference for sich…
And with this we get to the last question we have to talk about.
What about the whole mir-thing?
We know that German has cases so ich can become mich (Accusative) at times and mir (date-if) at other times. Mir, dir and so on often (not always) communicate the same as to me, to you …
- Du gibst mir ein Buch.
- You give a book to me.
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- Du träumst von mir.
- You dream of me.
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And of course those can also be used in a reflexive way.
- Ich gebe mir Zeit.
- I give time to me. (lit.)
- I give myself time.
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- Ich träume von mir.
- I dream of myself.
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Are those reflexive verb then? Well, based on the definitions in English and in German, the answer is yes. And at least they are verbs used reflexively.
But as a matter of fact,there are even real reflexive verbs that need Dative…. you know… the verbs that don’t make sense without the self reference. One example is sich Mühe geben.
- Ich gebe mir Mühe.
- I give toil to myself (lit.)
- I make an effort.
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So if anyone ever tells you something is not reflexive because it is mir and not mich… that is not correct. Whether something is reflexive or not has NOTHING to do with whether there is mir or mich.
So.. things with mir can be reflexive too.
And Germans have a soft spot for such mir-reflexives. We use them all the time, even if they are redundant.
- Ich kaufe mir eine Pizza.
- I by myself a pizza.
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This is even remotely understandable as I could theoretically buy a pizza for someone else. And English uses similar things sometimes.
- We got ourselves a cat.
But we also say this:
- Wir gucken uns einen Film an.
- We watch a movie.
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This self reference makes NO sense. You cannot watch someone else a movie.
- I watch you a movie…. uh… nope
In a discussion somewhere here (I don’t remember where), a user mentioned that also this exists in English.
- We watch ourselves a movie.(lit.)
I think someone in Oxford just shed a tear. In German this is pretty much standard, though. People talk that way all the time. Nor does it sound bad in anyway. Without the mir these things would sound a little dry. The mir or dir or uns makes it sound… cozy. That’s what it feels like to me sometimes. Like little Hobbits who got themselves some nice pipe-weed.
In fact we love it so much that we sometimes even prefer it over saying my… in particular in combination with body parts. In German you don’t say
- I wash my hands.
you say
- Ich wasche mir die Hände.
- I wash (to) myself THE hands.
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You can say
- Ich wasche meine Hände.
It’s not wrong. But it sounds mechanical. You could use that in a novel if someone gets home in some kind of catatonic daze.
- Ich komme nach Hause and schließe die Tür. Ich wasche meine Hände, gehe in die Küche. Ich öffne eine Dose Bohnen und schütte den Inhalt auf einen Teller. Dann setze ich mich an den Tisch. Und dann weine ich.
- I come home and close the door. I wash hands, go into the kitchen. I open a can of beans and pour the content onto a plate. Then I sit down at the table. Then, I cry.
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That’s how life would be without our comfy mir :).Other examples for this mir-usage are sich die Zähne putzen (instead of brushing one’s teeth), sich den Arm brechen (instead of break one’s arm) or sich das Gesicht eincremen (instead of put cream on one’s face).
And there are more. And for all of them, this version sounds sooooo much better than the respective version with my.
All right.
Now, this whole mir-thing doesn’t always work. We don’t say
- Ich lese mir ein Buch.
or
- Ich esse mir eine Pizza.
I don’t think there is a real rule though. It is just language in use. You’ll pick it up over time.
So… this was the mir-aspect of reflexive. There is one last thing to say about it and that is some good news. Yeay. The reflexive pronoun sich actually covers both cases. It is always the same… gender, case, plural… there is just one reflexive sich for all of them.
- Ich sehe mich.
- I see myself.
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- Sie sieht sich.
- He sees himself.
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- Ich kaufe mir ein Buch.
- I my myself a book.
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- Er kauft sich ein Buch.
- He buys herself a book.
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And I think that’s it for to… what?.. oh THAT… oh that’s not a mistake. Her pronouns are he and her.
Anyway, so this was a run through reflexive in German. We didn’t tackle ALL there is to say but I hope you got an impression of what’s going on and what the terminology is.
German uses a lot of its normal verbs in a reflexive context. Then, it has some verbs that change their meaning when used that way. And there are quite a few verbs that don’t even work without the self reference. Those and the “changelings” are the ones I would call reflexive verbs but the official definition calls everything with a reflexive pronoun a reflexive verb.
English can use a lot of its verbs in a reflexive way, but often prefers to just not use an object altogether. And English has only a handful of verbs that don’t work outside a reflexive context.
As usual, if you have any questions or suggestions, just leave me a comment.
I hope you liked it and we’ll see each other next time :)

On the “ourselves” as featured in “We watch ourselves a movie.(lit.)”, I am reminded of a great Bill Hicks skit (RIP) where he impersonates a southerner in the US immediately sceptical of Hicks because he’s reading. He does this exaggerated line: “Well, looks like we got ourselves a reader!” I think it actually helps communicate the idea of something coming into your world, remit, area, etc. Nicely typified by those who think they have ownership of a space and its norms. But we do it in more comfy settings. E.g. in regional British variants, “I had/made meself a nice cuppa!” And here it’s just a softening/colouring that communicates the activity as something that you are sort of treating yourself to.
Actually, this makes me wonder if you would say it ever without the self reference.
– I made a nice cuppa!
Would that be something a Brit says for the same context?
If not, then there isn’t really all that big a difference to German, except that in German, the self reference doesn’t always include “self”.
Also… how about “I made me a cuppa.”… that’s an American thing I guess, but I’m not sure.
I hear the “I made a nice cuppa” as perfectly fine though maybe less common in that sort of context. E.g. “yesterday I made/baked a lovely a cake” would be normal whereas adding a “meself/me” wouldn’t work, because the activity isn’t like a quick and comfy reward or treat. For “I made me a cuppa”, I hear that as a potential regional variant that would work.
I read this whole thing hoping to find out why “heiraten” doesn’t always take a reflexive pronoun. I still learned, but I would love an explanation there if you have one. I mean, if küssen and wäschen need reflexive pronouns, how can heiraten not?
I get your question.
waschen and küssen don’t NEED a reflexive. They need a direct object. That can be a reflexive pronoun but doesn’t have to be.
– Ich wasche dich.
– Wir waschen uns.
– Ich küsse Maria.
– Wir küssen Maria.
– Wir küssen uns.
That said, you do have a point.
– Thomas und Maria heiraten.
This is unclear. Do they marry each other or do they each marry someone. A reflexive pronoun could clear this up, but it’s just not idiomatic to use one.
There is no deeper logic. Logically, it SHOULD work with one, but it just didn’t evolve that way.
I know this is not very satisfying, but that’s the answer… there is no reason.
“Suppose someone comes up to you and asks you to make a decision about something you are not personally involved in… like … “Should I use Flamingos or Gibbons as a background for my phone?”… then you would just entscheiden. If you can’t decide whether you want beer or wine, then you need to sich entscheiden.”
HA! I cannot adequately express how incredibly helpful and entertaining these kinds of anecdotal examples are to my understanding a nuance of German such as the one discussed in this article. Thank you for keeping it exciting. And… I renewed today for one year, but only because we’re doing a lot of Christmas shopping these days. I will plan mich to take up the lifetime option probably next time.
Keep up the excellent work!!
My favorite reflexive meaning change is verstehen and sich verstehen. Understand and get along with.
Great article. Came for the mich-mir explanation. Still not 100% sure why ich bin mir nicht sicher und nicht ich bin mich sicher. :)
Ha, I think you can chalk that up to “mich just makes even less sense than mir”.
You will never find a direct object (Accusative) with “sein”, but you can find an indirect one (Dative) in similar phrasings like the one you mentioned.
– Ich bin mir zu schade dafür.
– Du bist mir im Weg.
– Ich bin mir selbst der nächste.
– Das ist mir zu doof.
The common theme is the person as a “target” for the sentiment. Hope that helps a bit :)
Interestingly, this is the same in Spanish – entiendo means I understand, and me entiendo (con) means I get on (with). It’s pretty logical, I think, when you consider that the reflexive version in both languages is just saying that the two people understand each other, but it’s definitely phrased weirdly. Nos entendemos bien literally means we understand each other well -> we get on well, but me entiendo bien con ellos literally means I understand myself well with them -> I get on well with them.
Either way, I like the cross-language continuity!
Yeah, the plural phrasing makes perfect sense, just the singular “ich verstehe mich mit…” is odd.
Maybe, in a way, we could think of it as “understanding oneself while with someone”, but that’s a LOT of mind yoga :)
Just checking on the line above: “sich das Gesicht eincremen (instead of put cream on one’s belly).” Gesicht is face…right? Is it also stomach?
Whops, no, it’s just “face” :). I fixed it, thank you!
You mentioned “And if you take a look at the list of real reflexive verbs in German I’ll add a link below, the ones that have the reflexive built in, then you’ll find that many of them are prefix-verbs.” but I can’t find a link??? I see someone mentioned this but it’s not clear what the status of the link is/was.
I think the link I had originally went dead, and now I can’t find it anymore, but I forgot to remove the reference.
I think I should just draw up my own list at some point – that would be a good complement to the article :)
Very helpful article and I appreciate the humor!
Danke :)
Silly me. I did post what I thought was a reply to your question, but (1) wasn’t signed in so it shows up as “anonymous” below, and (2) I may have posted it as it’s own new post rather than a reply (hard for me and my limited computer understanding to know). So that’s me in anonymous below with the references to the link that disappeared: the link is to a list of verbs that are only used in the reflexive, they have reflexive “built in.” I think the link may have disappeared from the article sometime when it was updated because the link still appears in the pdf. More precise info in the note below. My apologies!
Thanks very much for the great article, especially since it validates my confusion about how all this works. It is doubly a challenge when the academic discussion is muddy as well as the actual language (I should know since English and its academy are masters of muddy.)
My apologies, Emanuel, and maybe I’m blind but did the link to reflexive articles (which I thought should be at the end of the article above) disappear somehow? I have looked at the end many times and a few times I’ve skimmed the whole article and I can’t find it. I see the link in the pdf but it doesn’t seem to come across as an effective link in the pdf. (I suspect I’m about to be very embarrassed.)
Glad to hear you enjoyed this!
Help me out please, what link do you mean? Do I mention something in the text?
It’s quite a while that I’ve written this, so I don’t really remember.
Natürlich.
The reference in the article is close to the end of the German reflexive section, just above the mir/mich/sich section:
“And if you take a look at the list of real reflexive verbs in German I’ll add a link below, the ones that have the reflexive built in, then you’ll find that many of them are prefix-verbs. For instance beeilen…. or erkälten.”
Here is what the link looks like at the end of the pdf (but which I couldn
t find in the article):<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Lists with examples and some explanation </span>(shorter and better)
Not surprisingly, the copy of the link in the pdf is ineffective as a link.
I add this rest (which you can choose to not even read) only because you are open for us to provide English corrections: In the first quote above the first long sentence doesn t quite work in English. It has both the portion built around “take” and the portion built around “add,” which need an effective link between them. Some options are:
Changing the “take” portion requires a few changes that split up the long sentence (although you
re not by any means at Faulkners level), including an appositive:And if you want to take a look at the list of real reflexive verbs in German, the ones that have the reflexive built in, I
ll add a link below. You'll find ...An easier option is to make the "add" portion an appositive. While it does pile phrase on phrase (which I do all time) I think the different antecedents are still clear to a native English speaker. As a side note, an English teacher from my older generation would have rejected the sentence because of the "conflicting" antecedents but you hear this sort of thing all the time today:
And if you take a look at the list of real reflexive verbs in German<strong>, to which / for which </strong>I ll add a link below, …
The second is more colloquial in speech, the first sounds a little more academic, and to some stuffy …
… and yeah, I got a little carried away there. Hope it gives you more of a chuckle than a grimace. I appreciate the flow, diction, comedy, and insights of your articles and wouldn´t want to impact the flow of your writing.
Bitte noch ein Bier für meinen Freund …
Übrigens, ich heiße nicht Anonymous, aber DKirkJ. Entschuldigen Sie.
Just meandering around and ended up reading this article, and noticed that (as part of the *Epic Grammar* series) it would benefit from a gentle dose of error/typo-correcting medicine. Feel free to delete this comment once it’s served its function, of course: no point clogging up the already hefty comment-stream on this article with such trivialities!
sallary => salary
for which which => for which
No, I go myself. => “No, I am going myself” (The original just sounds… wrong! Well, wrong as a response to that particular question. But it *would* be fine if the prompt was something like “Do you make Thomas go and get your daily newspaper from the corner store?”)
costumers => customers
you find it the meanings different or not => you find the meanings different or not
And this we get to the one last question => And with this we get to the… ((perhaps?))
And English similar things sometimes => And English has/uses similar things sometimes
Those and the “changlings” => Those and the “changelings”
but official definition calls everything => but the official definition calls everything
to just don’t say an object altogether => to just not (say/use) an object altogether
Thanks a lot for cleaning this up.
This is one of the articles that is way overdue a do-over (see what I did there?), but whenever I do those it feels like writing an entirely new piece. At least it has a little face-lift now :)
Hello Emanuel
I came across what look like use of reflexive mir and dir, but when I look up the verbs they dont seem to be reflexive, and the addition of mir/dir don’t even seem to make sense to me given the verb. Are these examples of just making it sound cozy? Should we learn these verbs as reflexive?
Ich hab’ mir mal deinen genommen (I took yours (to myself?))
du solltest dir mal ein Passwort einrichten (You should set a password (for yourself?) [although not sure why it would be dative here?]
TIA
Yeah, you could take out the self reference, but German REALLY likes putting these in when doing something that you yourself are the immediate beneficiary from.
“nehmen” is especially prone to this, as are “angucken” and “anhören” for movies and podcasts. And “bestellen”.
Basically all verbs where you “get” something and also all kinds of body care things.
You can’t really generalize it though and do it for ALL verbs that would logically work with it. For instance it does NOT work with “essen”.
It’s a weird phrasing for sure, but think of English slang like
Or
In German, this stuff is mainstream.
Can you please help me describe each of these extreme sport because i must speak on these in class in german. i thought of speaking on Fallsschirmspringen, wildwasser schwimmen bunjee jumping und Parkour
ich muss diese verschiedenen extremsporten einfach auf deutsch erklaeren im Unterricht einige vorteil und nachteil von denen auch erwaehnen und einer der extremsporten genauer beschreiben.
I don’t really have time to do homework support. If you have a specific question about a grammar issue, I’ll answer it but please try to post it on an article that relates somewhat to what you’re asking.
Ok thank you for your reply.
if you want say i am imagining you to be beautiful how do i say
can i say ich stelle mir dich schoen vor or is it ich stelle mir dich vor, dass du huebsch bist
Only the first one works.
If you use a direct object, you cannot connect a side sentence
In the second sentence, the “dass”-part has essentially the role of the object.
my doubt is
one can say ich stelle mich dir which means i am introducing myself to you
the next sentence ich stelle mir dich is it correct or is it
ich stelle dich mir because when two pronouns come together akkusative preceeds dativ can you please explain.
So one thing you absolutely need is “vor” at the end, because the verb is “vorstellen”, not just “stellen”.
Both are correct. The second one is a bit more “default”, and the first one has a slight emphasis on “dich”.
Accusative TENDS to come before Dative, but it’s not at all a fixed rule. Very few things about word order are fixed in German, except for the position of the verb.
Hope that helps.
vielen dank das war sehr Hilfsbereich vielen dank noch mal
my doubt is
one can say ich stelle mich dir which means i am introducing myself to you
the next sentence ich stelle mir dich is it correct or is it
ich stelle dich mir because when two pronouns come together akkusative preceeds dativ can you please explain.
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Hahahaha, thanks :). Don’t forget to enjoy the coming weekend, though :)
another question “forgive my insistence and my plenty inquires”:
in the link there is something about “einander” i couldn’t catch .. a simple clarifying please!!
“in the link there is something about “einander” i couldn’t catch .. a simple clarifying please!!”
I do not understand what you mean by that. It’s been years that I have written the article, so please give me a little more context.
At the very end of the article there is a link with lists of examples for reflexive verbs
in the article was this:
“Reziproke Verben haben die Besonderheit, dass sie nur im Plural Verwendung finden. Das Reziprokpronomen “sich” lässt sich mit “einander” ersetzen.
Peter liebt Petra und Petra liebt Peter.
Peter und Petra lieben sich.
Sie lieben einander.”
I couldn’t catch the idea
If two parties do something to each other, you can either phrase that with “sich” or “sich gegenseitig” or “einander”.
– Thomas und Maria schlagen sich (gegenseitig).
– Thomas und Maria schlagen einander.
Both versions mean the same. “einander” sounds more fancy.
Hope that helps.
a lot … now it is clear
“Should I go?”
“No, I go myself.”
But this myself is NOT a reflexive pronoun (it is called intensifying pronoun here) and the situation is not reflexive.
is this “myself” the one which translates to “selbst”? or selbst mean sth else?
why we use “von selbst” instead of “von sich”?
Yes, the example would be translated with “selbst”
– Soll ich gehen?
– Nein, ich gehe selbst.
Why “von selbst” and not “von sich” is hard to answer, because it’s just how it is to my brain. Why do you think it should be “von sich”?
i drove this “von sich/selbst” to discover what can the word “selbst” actually mean …. the difference between these two is not really obvious for me … both are pronoun and have the same core meaning … then which do we use where (apart from reflexiveness)
many times long ago i searched for “selbst” .. when things come to it i feel like —–blank—– error404 —– hypnogenesis
Think of “selbst” as an adjective/adverb that answers the question “how”. “sich” is an object that’ll answer the question “who/what” or similar.
– Er macht es selbst.
How does he do it? “selbst”.
“sich… ” obviously wouldn’t work here, because “selbst” does not fill an object slot.
Thank you.
Cases are a piece of cake compared to this. Because there there are definite rules. Reflexive verbs on the other hand give me really hard time. How can I know that Ich wasche mir die Hände instead of meine Hände?
As you said the only way to know is to actually develop some “sense” and that requires an indefinite amount of practice.
For these kinds of things reading a lot is really helpful. Reading an entire novel. And the best is to read it out loud to yourself. It’s exhausting, but it goes a long way.
Ich finde eigentlich Reflexive Verben gar nicht schwer .Da gibt es viele …viele.. schwierige Dinge als Reflexive Verben .Wenn reflexive Verben schwer bezeichnet sind , wie werden dann zbs “die Adjektivendungen” , “alle Verben mit Praepositionen”, “alle Adjektiven mit Praepositionen” “Konnektoren , zweiteile Konnectoren”, “Woerter Geschlecht”…………………..(uzw und so foooort) bezeichnet ?
Turbo-schwer :).
Du hast recht, reflexive Verben sind nicht eins der großen Probleme in Deutsch. Aber es gibt trotzdem immer wieder Fragen zu dem Thema.