Word of the Day- “mal” – part 2

mal-part2-picUh…Hi… welcome back….
So…originally I had no plans to make that into 2 posts. But this part ended up being so long that the entire article would have been more than 5000 words. God damn, 5000 words just to explain one word. That sounds so absurd. But then again, mal is not just some word. Mal is like: “I am mal, bitch!” And everyone’s just like “Oh no, there is mal, it’s so tough… no one can explain it.” Well, we’ll see … or should I say mal sehen… uh… no… I probably shouldn’t because we haven’t talked about this yet. But we will :).
So… in the first part we talked about the origins of mal and the somewhat normal mal as in einmal zweimal and so on. If you haven’t read that part, click right here and read it first please:

And now let’s get to what’s actually interesting… the particle mal, the all over the place mal, the “once don’t make no sense” –mal … and we’ll talk about all those combinations like noch mal, schon mal, erst mal and so on… so are you ready? Great.

mal – leisure wear for your sentence

All right. And now let’s move on to what’s actually interesting… the kind of particle mal.
Many people will say that mal is just a shortened version of einmal. I don’t know if that is actually what happened but there is certainly some truth to that. In written German, einmal is way more common and is used in many situation where in spoken people would just say mal. But people use mal in spoken A LOT and I think it really is evolving into a word of its own. And this has an effect on einmal, too. You see, with mal around, einmal now doesn’t have to cover as much meaning as before and is thus slightly shifted as well.
Here is what I mean. The standard opening for a fairytale in German reads like this:

  • Es war einmal eine Prinzessin….
  • Once upon a time….

Now, the focus here is not so much that the princess was there exactly one time (einmal) and not 2 times (zweimal). No one thinks “Oh okay… so it was not twice in time….” The focus is that the princess was there at some point in time… which, as you hopefully remember, is what Mal actually means…. a point in time.
So what we see in spoken German is that mal is used for exactly that idea… a point in time. In modern day German, the fairytale would start like this:

  • Es war mal ‘ne Prinzessin…

And there are actually many real life examples with this very mal. For instance a tourist guide in Berlin is very very likely to say this:

  • Hier war mal ein Grenzübergang.
  • Here, there was once a border checkpoint.

Einmal would mean the same here. But to me it sounds unnecessarily long or over-articulated  and I would NEVER say it. I think einmal is slowly shifting toward the whole “1 time as opposed to 2 times“-idea while mal is used for the situation where it is not about the number but about just a point in time.

  • Ich war mal in Paris, aber das ist lange her.
  • I’ve been to Paris, but that was long ago.

If someone said einmal instead, I would think the person wants to emphasize that he or she was there exactly once and I am sure I’m not the only one who feel that way. So the mal here conveys something like… “at some point, doesn’t matter when exactly” and I think it is more a appropriate not to translate it at all… but that’s just me.

  • Ich will mal nach Kanada.
  • I want to go to/visit Kanada (at some point).

Again, using einmal would sound weird to me… a bit like… “why are you stressing the one part so much…. so you wouldn’t wanne go twice?” Same here:

  • Kann ich mal mit deinem Handy telefonieren?
  • Could I use your cell phone?

Sure, people will assume that you mean one call. But if you end up doing 2 calls the person can’t really say… “Hey, I agreed to just mal and not twice.” … I mean he or she can, but it would be very awkward.
Here is a similar example that makes it more clear:

  • Ich muss mal telefonieren.
  • I have to make make a call /some calls.

Mal really doesn’t mean one call… it just means make calls at one/this point in time.
So … I’ll just say it again. Mal is used in sense of “(at)  one point in time” and einmal increasingly takes on the notion of “1 time as opposed to 2 times”. Here are some more examples:

  • “Warum willst du denn nicht in das Restaurant, Schatz? Da gehen wir doch immer hin.”
    “Ja, aber ich will einfach mal was neues ausprobieren.”
  • “Why do you not want to go to that restaurant, honey? We ALWAYS go there?
    “Yeah, but I just want to try something new.”
  • Ich hab’ mal eine Weile in Finnland gelebt.
  • I’ve lived in Finland for a while.
  • Marie will auf jeden Fall irgendwann mal Kinder haben.
  • Marie definitely want to have kids at some point.
  • Du hast eine neue Wohnung? Cool, ich komm’ auf jeden Fall mal vorbei.
  • You have a new flat? Cool, I’ll definitely drop by.
  • Ich brauch’ mal einen Hammer.
  • I need a hammer over here.

I find it really hard to translate this mal because I feel like any translation, be it at some point, once or whatever else, would be way too defined. All 3 examples would work without mal and still have the same meaning pretty much. Mal just makes them sound more casual. Like… without mal it is like this guy wearing a tie and having his shirt buttoned up all the way, being strictly about dealing information and the mal-version is the same guy at the after work in a lounge drinking a Martini with 2 buttons open. Maybe that’s why people use mal so much… because it really makes the whole statement sound relaxed and casual.

This effect is also the reason why people use mal incredibly often to soften orders…. not in a restaurant but these everyday command we tell to our friends and coworkers.

  • Wart’ mal kurz!
  • Wait a second!
  • Halt mal kurz, bitte!
  • Could you hold this for a second?
  • Komm mal her, ich muss dir was zeigen.
  • Come here for a second, I have to show you something.
  • Erzähl mal, wie dein Urlaub war!
  • Tell me about your vacation!
  • Guck mal, dahinten ist ein Filmstar!
  • Look, there is a movie star over there!

All these short sentences are direct orders… and those would sound very blunt and in the face if mal wasn’t there to soften them … really soften them,… you know… giving them this lounge feeling :). Seriously, these things can sound really nice and almost like a question. But when you take out the mal, it sounds like an army commander barking at his platoon.

  • Erzähl, wie dein Urlaub war… you sissy!

These everyday commands softened with mal are INCREDIBLY common in German and I can’t possibly list all examples… sag mal, zeig mal, versuch mal,  guck mal, mach mal… you can hear all of these every day and the list goes on and on. So… mal kind of makes direct commands feel like questions. What’s really fascinating is that mal can also work the other way around… that is, when used in a question, it makes this question sound like a soft command.

  • Kannst du mir mal das Salz geben?
  • Could you pass me the salt?

It is phrased like a question but the actual meaning is “Give the god damn salt, already.” Now, without the mal it would be not much different. However it would sound a bit more like you really want to inquire whether the person is capable of passing the salt.

  • Kannst du mal 5 Minuten still sein?
  • Could you be quiet for 5 minutes?

This one without the mal would really sound like a question… like you really want to know and the mal makes it clear that it is actually an order. So… you can use this mal when you are talking with friends or coworkers and it will feel very very German. But it is totally out of place when you ask a stranger for the time (we did that in the last century because we didn’t have these portable phone things)

  • Können Sie mir sagen, wie spät es ist?
  • Could you tell me, what time it is?

Sure, this could also be understood as if you really asking for capability here. And some funny people in Berlin would actually answer:

  • Ja.

And move on… just to then stop and be like:

  • Ohhh… you actually want to KNOW the time… hahahaha… it is 10:68.

Yep… that would be 11:08… sooooo funny. But anyway, generally the people will understand that you want to know the time when you ask this question. Now, when you insert mal, that sounds like a softened order and that is too much for a stranger.

  • Können Sie mir mal sagen, wie spät es ist?

I think I’ve never heard that and it just feels inappropriate… it might be very subtle… but don’t do it.
So.. let’s do a quick recap. Mal kind of means (at) a/some point in time with the focus being on point in time and not on the exact number. People used it so much that it has evolved into a coloring particle that can make your sentence sound casual, your command soft and your question like a soft command. And now let’s get to the really useful stuff :)

Combinations with mal

Mal is part of quite a number fixed very common combinations. So fixed and so common that for some people don’t even know whether it is one word or 2 and the way they pronounce it really makes you think it is one.
In some phrases, the mal is more the mal of einmal, in others it is the casual-maker but don’t try too hard to explain these combinations. They just evolved and here they are. So… let’s look at some, shall we :)

noch mal

This one is so famous, it even has its own website… what? Oh, no that wasn’t a joke… it really does, here’s the link.
The literal meaning of it would be one more time or once again. But often it is best translated with just again. In that sense you can also say noch einmal.

  • Ich habe um 3 versucht anzurufen und dann noch (ein)mal um 5.
  • I tried calling at 3 and then again at 5.

And just like again, you can use it many times in a row… here is a nice example I found in a review for a remote on Amazon, where you can also see the spelling issue:

  • Beide entsprechenden Knöpfe drücken – dreimaliges Blinken bestätigt Speicherung. Nun nur noch ausprobieren – Geht nicht. also noch mal. Und noch mal. Und noch mal. Und nochmal Bedienungsanleitung und Rezensionen gelesen….
  • Push the respecitive 2 buttons – 3 time blinking confirms succesful saving. All that’s left is trying – doesn’t work. So again. And again. And again. Read again manual and customer reviews…

When said the right way, noch mal can also sound annoyed.

  • “Bitte wiederhole das Wort noch mal.”
    “Oh Goooott , NOCH mal.
  • “Please say the word once again.”
    “Oh god, aGAIN.”

But, just like mal,  noch mal doesn’t always carry the idea of one time… heck, it doesn’t even always carry the idea of repetition. Imagine you meet a friend in the street and he or she invites you to see a movie…

  • “Ich geh’ ins Kino. Willst du mitkommen?”
    “Ja gern, aber ich muss vorher noch mal nach Hause.”
  • “I’m going to see a movie. Wanne come with?”
    “Yeah sure, but I have to go home first/before.”

So… what does this mean? It doesn’t necessarily mean that you have gone home already before that day and that this time will be going home AGAIN. Also, it doesn’t mean that you have to go home once and not twice.
It means that before you can go to the movie there is another task on your list…. so… you’re almost done with your list for that day but going home is still on it and you will have to do that first. That is what noch expresses… yep, I will do a post on that, too…. And what about the mal… well, this is the casual mal here. It means nothing. You can leave it out and have the same sense. Maybe it adds some notion that you won’t be home for long but honestly… just think of it as the casual-maker.
A brother of noch mal is the one word word… nochmals… but I’ll leave that for the dictionary :)
All right. Moving on.

mal sehen

This one exists in more than one version but the idea is always the same. You can use it as a stand alone statement.

  • Mal sehen/schauen.
  • We’ll see/ I’ll have to see.
  • “Kommst du im Sommer mit an die Ostsee zelten?”
    “Mal sehen… kann ich noch nich’ sagen.”
  • “Are you going to go camping at to the Baltic sea with us this summer?”
    “I’ll have to see… don’t know yet.”

But you can also use it in a real sentence.

  • Mal sehen/schauen, ob Thomas heute pünktlich kommt.
  • Let’s see, whether Thomas will make it in time today.

One common expression following the same basic idea is this

  • Schaunwama.

What? Isn’t this that chicken wrap thing? Well, almost… it is actually dialect for

  • Schauen wir mal.
  • We’ll see /Let’s see.

Does mal translate to anything in these examples? No. Does it make it sound casual? Yes. And also, a one word infinite would be strange :)

nicht mal


For nicht (ein)mal it actually helps to think of mal as one time.. so literally nicht mal is NOT one time… as in 0.75 times :). And that is not so far away from the actual meaning… not even.

  • Du hast nicht mal deinen Teller in die Spülmaschine gestellt.
  • You did not put your plate into the dish washer one time. (lit.)
  • You didn’t even put your plate into the dish washer.
  • Der Film ist super kurz… ich glaub’, nicht mal 80 Minuten.
  • The movie is super short… I think, not even 90 minutes.
  • Ich habe nicht mal was getrunken und ich hab’ trotzdem einen Kater.
  • I didn’t even drink and I have a hangover anyway.

Speaking of have… I think I have to mention something about nicht mal ….

  • Ich war nicht mal in Paris.

is NOT just the negative of

  • Ich war mal in Paris.

The combination of nicht mal really feels like not even. So the sentence means:

  • I was not even in Paris, (let alone other cities… if that makes sense in English)

If you want to say the you’ve never been to Paris, that would be:

  • Ich war noch nie in Paris.

But that is another story.

Gerade mal

Now, a very similar combination to nicht mal is gerade mal which translates to barely or just (one times).

  • Der Film ist gerade mal (grad mal) 80 Minuten lang.
  • The movie is barely 80 minutes.
  • Was? Du bist fertig mit der Aufgabe? Ich bin grad mal bei der Hälfte.
  • What? You are done with the exercise? I’ve just/barely/only done half of it.

To make it a little more confusing, gerade mal has a second meaning which is a temporal one which ranges from right now to the immediate future

  • Ich bin gerade mal 5 Minuten nicht im Büro.
  • I’ll be out of the office for the next 5 minutes.
  • Ich bin grad mal in der Küche.
  • I’ll be in the kitchen for a few moments.

This is really hard to pin point and honestly, I think this meaning is not the most important one so won’t really need it.
What you will need is this

erst mal

 
This is another one of those combinations that are so common that people tend to write it as one word. Officially 2 words is correct though. Now, I have already written about the word erst in detail (here’s the link) . And the good news is that male doesn’t add much to that except for it’s usual casual vibe.

  • Ich muss erst mal nach Hause.
  • First, I have to go home.

We could leave out mal here without changing the meaning.
However, the bad news is that I lied… mal can change erst and remove a lot of the notion of first. I mean, it is still there… but only on an abstract level. So what does it mean?
Erst mal often means for now/ for this point in time.

  • Du kannst erst mal  hier wohnen bis du was eigenes hast.
  • You can live here for now, till you find your own place to stay.

Interestingly, erst mal also works when a time is given. Then, I have no idea how to translate it without having the English version being overly long and stilted.

  • Du kannst erst mal ein paar Wochen hier wohnen….
  • You can live here for a few weeks…

So... erst mal is somewhere between first and as a first step, if that makes sense.

  • Das Fahrrad ist zwar noch nicht komplett ganz, aber man kann erst mal damit fahren.
  • The bike isn’t completely fixed yet, but for now it is “driveable”.
  • “Wie findest du mein Bild?”
    “Hmmm, is’ schon cool aber irgendwie fehlt noch was.”
    “Ja, ich weiß, aber ich weiß nich’ was. Ich lass’ es erst mal so.”
  • “How do you like my picture?”
    “Hmmm.. it’s pretty cool already but I feel like something is missing.”
    “Yeah, I know, but I don’t know what it is. I’ll leave it like that for now.

Wow… in the last example, every German sentence was shorter than the English counterpart… now who would have though that was possible :)
Anyway… there is also a one word version of this… erstmals... and, oh my… the meaning of it is different… horayyyy.
Erstmals means for the first time and it only works in certain contexts which I can not tell more about because I have no idea. It is more of a newspaper word anyway.

  • Erstmals steht eine Frau an der Spitze des Konzerns.
  • For the first time, a woman is leading the corporation.

schon mal

And finally, the last very very common combination is schon mal. It basically is just a combination of the already-schon and the (at) a point in time – mal but the translation can be quite different.

  • Warst du schon mal in Paris?
  • Have you been to Paris already at some point in time? (lit.)
  • Have you (ever) been to Paris (yet)?
  • Hast du schon mal Insekten gegessen?
  • Have you ever eaten insects?

You can basically take out either schon or ma l and have pretty much the same question but the combination sounds best and is used the most.
And just to make sure… if the answer is negative, the phrasing you need is this:

  • Nein, (noch) nie/nicht.

With the noch implying that you might do it in the future.
Now, there are other meanings of schon mal… it is not ALWAYS ever…. ever is actually just a byproduct of the combination. Imagine you are cooking with friends and you are making pasta. Your friend is in charge of the sauce and keeps cutting vegetables. You get bored would love to do something too, so you ask

  • Soll ich schon mal die Nudeln kochen?
  • Should I go ahead and boil/cook the pasta?

So here, schon mal is less already than schon alone would be. Another example… the deed is done and the plates are filled. And then your phone rings. It’s your mom. So you say…

  • Oh… ich muss kurz telefonieren, aber ihr könnt ruhig schon mal essen.
  • Oh… I have to take this one, but you guys can go ahead and start eating.

Sure, you could just think of it as already but to me, the vibe is a little different.
Now, finally, lastly, we need to talk about the other meaning of schon mal... yeah… I can hear you all sigh. The thing is, schon can mean already, but it is also a particle that disperses doubt to an extent… kind of like a skeptical yes.  And this can also be the case in the combination with mal. Here are the 2 versions back to back…. I’ll stay at the dinner party…

  • Ich muss mal telefonieren aber du kannst schon mal essen.
  • I have to make/take a call real quick, but you can go ahead and/already eat.
  • Pasta mit Thunfisch kann man schon mal essen, aber nicht zu oft.
  • Pasta with tuna? I guess, I can eat that … but not too often (kind of literally)
  • Pasta with tuna… well, it is a fine dish but please not too often.

Is there a difference in pronunciation? No. Can you only now by context? Yes. Is that important for a beginner? Hellllllllllllll no :). Just remember the “normal” schon mal.

Wrap up

So, this was the second part of our analysis of mal. I’m sure it was long and exhausting for you and I am just as sure that we did not cover all there is to say… there are more combinations out there and I also, I didn’t mention that mal can also means times in a mathematical sense.

  • 2 mal 3 macht 4
    Widdewiddewitt
    und Drei macht Neune !
  • Freckles on her nose,
    Diddle diddle dee,
    a girl came riding

Oh… quite some freedom in translation there :)… well, sure seems like the German Pippi Longstocking is an engineer doing math and stuff…. probably building cars, too.
Anyway… to sum up the most important thing… mal, while originally probably just a shortened form of einmal, has evolved into a word of its own. It can mean (at) some point in time with no focus on how many times we are talking about but it has been used so much that often it is just a particle making the sentence sound casual. The most prominent use of this mal are these little commands like guck mal, sag mal, frag mal and so on and so on… and you should definitely try to include that into your own German.
And now… all that’s left is the one mal no one of you expected…. that mal that means … to pee.

  • Mama, ich muss mal.
  • Mom, I need to pee. …Ok… it can also mean I need to take a dump, but peeing is more common.

Yes, this is not a joke. Any German… any German will understand this. And it is not the worst way announcing that you need to see a bathroom.

  • Ich muss mal.

Kids say it all the time in the car.
All right… so, this was mal the monster. If you have any questions or suggestions or you have others mals that we haven’t talked about yet, just leave me a comment. I am can’t wait to explain more :). I hope you liked it, I’ll see you next time…
oh…
and here is the complete German version of the Pippi Longstocking song. Have fun with your Ohrwurm.